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Atlas Or Highlander For Brawling ?


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#1 Slintal

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:25 AM

I saved some cbills and i want to try a brawler (bored of sniping). At first i wanted a Atlas, but now, when i tried the maneuverability of current trial RS, I ask:
Do the highlanders have better maneuverability ? (i had a stalker and i was fine with the maneuverability of std 255) and can they brawl?

I was thinking about those mechs: Atlas D or D-DC, and now about Highlander 733-C


+ I want something that has multiple viable builds

Edited by Slintal, 07 July 2013 - 11:27 AM.


#2 Skinless2

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:43 AM

Yes Highlanders are more maneuverable and yes they can brawl with the right load-out. Both can mix things up when it comes to builds But the Atlas has the extra armor and ECM if you take the D-DC, I find that the Highlander naturally falls into sniper rolls though so I would say the Atlas is what you want. If you want to be a little more support take the D-DC, if you want to more dakka take the D or the RS.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:51 AM

I prefer the Atlas over the Highlander.

I run them with very large engines and trade off a few weapons, just to make them that little bit more tolerable in terms of maneuverability.

I bought a Highlander with real money and really didn't like it at all. It's a huge target and has less armor than the Atlas.

Mind you, since the new terrain climbing restrictions were introduced, the Highlander may well be the better choice now.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:53 AM

Atlas DDC is the king of brawlers.

You mention maneuverability, and that is even more important now that new movement rules have been pushed out. I have recently grabbed a couple Highlanders (732 and HM, since it was on sale) and have tried brawling in them to make use of the JJs for clearing obstacles and avoiding being out positioned. Outfitting them as close to my DDC loadout as possible (leave the Gauss instead of the AC20 due to slots). Trying to decide on the 3rd one to get now so I can Master the HM. Probably the C, play with that one a bit.

In any case where obstacles and map issues are not a consideration, the DDC wins out especially with the ECM factored. Now, on Canyons, the Highlander evens up the gap thanks to the JJs, Frozen City and River City also let the JJs make a pivotal difference.

Ultimately, I have dropped in 50 matches with my HM and 732, 32 in the HM and have a 1.53 K/D with it. What is odd though is that it felt as though it was not performing well at all, I felt less effective than my DDC.......which has a K/D of .95 (although has over 3 times the matches).

Still, I think the Highlander can fill out as a good brawler especially with the movement restrictions now in place, but I don't think I would choose one over a DDC if I could only take one into battle.

Edited by Thumper3, 07 July 2013 - 11:55 AM.


#5 Appogee

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:01 PM

My k/d in a D-DC is 2.85, while the best I could do in a 732 Highlander was 1.42.

However, more importantly, the Highlander just felt 'clunky' to me. I didn't feel like I was getting much value out of the Jump Jets.

Mind you, that was before the terrain changes. I just played a match on Canyon in a Stalker - that map could now be a deathtrap for Assaults without Jump Jets.

#6 Slintal

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:17 PM

View PostAppogee, on 07 July 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

Mind you, that was before the terrain changes. I just played a match on Canyon in a Stalker - that map could now be a deathtrap for Assaults without Jump Jets.


Yeah, i played it in that trial atlas and did 10 dmg because i didn't get to battle

#7 LordBraxton

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:19 PM

with the recent movement changes the highlander jump jets became very VERY valuable

#8 BootHands

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:30 PM

View PostSlintal, on 07 July 2013 - 11:25 AM, said:

I saved some cbills and i want to try a brawler (bored of sniping). At first i wanted a Atlas, but now, when i tried the maneuverability of current trial RS, I ask:
Do the highlanders have better maneuverability ? (i had a stalker and i was fine with the maneuverability of std 255) and can they brawl?

I was thinking about those mechs: Atlas D or D-DC, and now about Highlander 733-C


+ I want something that has multiple viable builds


Highlanders can't brawl. Your loadout is irrelevent, you will get completely ***** by LRMS. In the 30 seconds you live through the LRM bukkake, you'll put out like 120 damage.

If you want to brawl, play an ECM Atlas.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:05 PM

Having an Arm mounted AC/20 has been netting me many Light kills.

Highlanders can brawl.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 02:16 PM

Atlas ddc if you want to brawl for sure, jj are usefull but the extra armour and ecm make it the brawler king.

The HM isn't a brawler but it's an excellent sniper.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:54 PM

The DDC because of the ECM otherwise Highlander all the way. Highlander is just more mobile with the JJ which will let if dictate the brawl...much like the DDC can do since it effectively operates in stealth mode half the time hehe.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:07 PM

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dc9851f00134a76 http://mwo.smurfy-ne...291852569719ef4 You can soften them up before closing to brawling range, then still dominate at brawling range -_-.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:40 PM

DDC big engine and ECM - they are OK now but as soon as SRMs are fixed will be great again.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:13 PM

As a Highlander pilot I can hold my own in a brawl no problem, absorb lots of damage and even manage to get down to %10-%15 armor/health often enough.

Dishing out damage is no problem with the arm mounted weapons, that's why I prefer the HeavyMetal.

That said I've had many great battles vs Atlas pilots, I don't think you can really pick which chassis is better.





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