37 replies to this topic

[Lori Carlyle]

I'm a n00b when it comes to hardware and my old Samsung 205BW is now starting to show it's age.

I was looking around at the <£170 24" monitors but notice that most of em are now LED over LCD which (from what I can read) gives ghosting?

Anyone got one? reviews are mixed, some saying it's the new "sliced bread" others say they might as well be the devils monitor.

Two HDMI inputs would be ideal but can live with one if anyone has a good recommendation?

[Alizabeth Aijou]

Personally, I'd go with a CRT monitor.
They've given the best persistant quality for gaming purposes.

[Amechwarrior]

Alizabeth Aijou, on 09 November 2011 - 11:21 AM, said:

Personally, I'd go with a CRT monitor.
They've given the best persistant quality for gaming purposes.

Sad but true. I am almost considering ditching my old 19 inch CRT monitor for a multi-screen setup. I would never try such a thing with CRTs and more games are being built with widecreen as the default anyway.

[Lori Carlyle]

Alizabeth Aijou, on 09 November 2011 - 11:21 AM, said:

Personally, I'd go with a CRT monitor.

Not an option, I like to progress with technology, going backwards would be pointless.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

Fine, enjoy your shorter lifetime monitors uncapable of displaying true black.

[Lori Carlyle]

Will do, but thanks for your concern.

[CaveMan]

Alizabeth Aijou, on 09 November 2011 - 11:21 AM, said:

Personally, I'd go with a CRT monitor.
They've given the best persistant quality for gaming purposes.

Sure, just point the way to a 32" widescreen CRT that's not the size of a medium-size refrigerator.

So glad to be done with those dinosaurs. They gave me splitting headaches.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

CaveMan, on 11 November 2011 - 12:25 AM, said:

So glad to be done with those dinosaurs. They gave me splitting headaches.

All the same, but LCDs give me headaches.
Studies have indicated that it takes twice as long to get a headache from an CRT screen than from an LCD screen (16 and 8 hours resp.).
LCDs outsold CRTs in Q4 2007, and in Q1 2008 it was the opposite.

From a technical point of view, CRTs still have an edge in certain aspects when compared with LCD, Plasma, etc.

Also, CRTs are still popular in the printing and broadcasting industries as well as in the professional video, photography, and graphics fields due to their greater color fidelity, contrast, and better viewing from off-axis (wider viewing angle). CRTs also still find adherents in video gaming because of their higher resolution per initial cost, lowest possible input lag, fast response time, and multiple native resolutions.

[Jacob]

I own IIyama prolite E2409HDS and its quite good, costed about 150£ which is cheap for 24'' full hd monitor especially since it has wide range of ports (RGB, DVI-D, HDMI).

[The1WithTheGun]

Lori Carlyle, on 09 November 2011 - 09:52 AM, said:

I'm a n00b when it comes to hardware and my old Samsung 205BW is now starting to show it's age.

I was looking around at the <£170 24" monitors but notice that most of em are now LED over LCD which (from what I can read) gives ghosting?

Anyone got one? reviews are mixed, some saying it's the new "sliced bread" others say they might as well be the devils monitor.

Two HDMI inputs would be ideal but can live with one if anyone has a good recommendation?

I have a 23" LG IPS236 LED monitor - and it works just fine for gaming. No ghosting, the blacks are deep, whites bright (much better contrast ratio), the colors are vibrant. And as a plus, LEDs last longer than LCDs and burn a lot less energy as well.

Now should everyone who currently has an LCD run out and go LED? No - many later-gen LCDs are almost as good as current LED. But since you are getting a new monitor anyway, it can't hurt to go LED if the price is right. Though my advice - if possible wait another month and a bit to take advantage of post-Christmas sales.

Edited by The1WithTheGun, 17 November 2011 - 08:00 PM.

[Cattra Kell]

1. Buy 3 22'' Samsung TV's
2. Hook them up
3. ????
4. PROFIT!

No but seriously if you are going the LCD or LED route if you don't have space for a CRT, and at the moment go with a LCD. As it stands AT THE MOMENT LCD and LED have the same quality the only difference is the back lights used and depending if you get quad-color or not, then that's when you see the difference. Save some money, go LCD.

People say that LED saves a lot more money then LCD through power, that CAN be true but it all depends. Energy Star rating, model type, etc. and yes it is true that LED saves energy its usually not by a huge ton. Also note that both LED and LCD will not show a "true" black but depending on color settings etc you can get close.

Besides Christmas is coming, check for sales!

[Stahlseele]

Yeah, i'd love a 24" full HD CRT Screen that has true 120Hz . . .
But i'd need to reinforce my desk. And probably the floor below.

[Maxiom]

At present I run 17" crts on either side of my 21" crt
Seems people are almost giving CRTs away

Edited by Maxiom, 12 December 2011 - 04:40 PM.

[Vincent Vascaul]

Just to be clear a LED monitor is a LCD monitor just with LED backlighting the difference is energy savings, size and supposedly longevity but that can only be proven over time. I run 3 traditional LCD's and I have no interest in upgrading atm esp. since they are almost all 16:9 aspect ratio which is unacceptable for me.

[Vincent Vascaul]

Just noticed Cattra Kell made the same point as me. Off topic, I enjoy your podcast man.

[Cattra Kell]

Vincent Vascaul, on 12 December 2011 - 07:49 PM, said:

Just noticed Cattra Kell made the same point as me. Off topic, I enjoy your podcast man.

Thanks! Yeah as it stands not much difference in LED and LCD as far as quality goes unless, like I said, Quad-Colour. I manage a Electronics department so I have to try to keep up on this sort of thing.

[Maxiom]

LED stands for Light Emitting Diode, and LCD stands for Liquid Crystal Dispaly Both are completely different technologies.

LED radiates light from the over bias reaction of a PN or NP silicon(transistor type) circuit. [Light Source in a controllable matrix]
LCD essentially flips a crystal floating in liquid so it blocks(filters) or doesn't block(filter) the light from behind it. [Light Filter in a controllable matrix]
(LCD requires back lighting or a colour reflection behind it)

As time has effected both technologies to "borough off each other" the difference has become less defined as LED has become the light source and LCD manipulates the source in one display unit. As the matrix of both technologies increases and are further integrated they most likely drop the LED/LCD technical designations and give it some cool marketing generated name.

Edited by Maxiom, 20 December 2011 - 07:32 AM.

[-STEVE-]

I currently have an AOC "Razor" e2343Fk which is an LED back-lit monitor. Mine doesnt have hdmi on it but i saw a version of mine that did. I picked it for $134. 5ms response, 50 million: 1 dynamic contrast which out guns even full-HD plasma's and true-HD LCD TVs (TRUE BLACK), I have never seen a monitor that even compares to this one in visual quality. Others can scorn LCDs and LED back-lit monitors all they like but I've done comparisons between CRTs, standard LCDs and this LED back-lit one and this one is far superior.
Used to suffer from headaches with CRTs and eventually got them with standard LCDs. Haven't had a single headache since using this monitor even while using it for several hours at a time in various lighting conditions.
I have nothing to gain by lying to you. This is simply my vote towards LED monitors being the successors to all previous technologies. Hope this helped mate.

[T0RC4ED]

Im currently running a HP 2709m 27"
3ms(GTG) HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen 16:9 LCD Monitor
400 cd/m2 DC 30000:1(1000:1)
This model is no longer in production (new upgraded models are out there), but it is a beautiful screen with good mounting options or a sturdy stock stand. Asside from great specs for its size and time it was built it is a high gloss screen which cuts down on color distortion that matte finnished screens have. I dont miss CRT tech at all, my eyes are verry sensative to the flicker produced by CRT screens.
NOTE: High gloss screens are best used in controlled light enviornments due to glare.

Edited by T0RC4ED, 05 January 2012 - 07:50 AM.

[Fyrwulf]

I have owned a 22" NEC FE2111B for eight years. Awesome colors, great response time, and it's not even close to being dead. Thing is, at 72 pounds and seriously front heavy, it's a little cumbersome. When I decide to replace it, I'm getting an 3D LED TV and using it as both my gaming monitor and my standard TV.