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Poll: 2nd Person View (17 member(s) have cast votes)

Should 2nd Person View be added?

  1. Yes (5 votes [29.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  2. No (5 votes [29.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  3. Instead of 3PV, yes (6 votes [35.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  4. Instead of 1PV, yes (1 votes [5.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

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#1 LogicalTightRope

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 02:07 PM

With all this fuss about 3rd person view, we all seem to forget about the 2nd person view, which is vastly underused in the gaming industry. A lot of people may be unclear on what 2nd person view is. If first person view is the pilot's view, and 3rd person view is an aloof camera onlooking the situation, what is 2nd person?

2nd person view would be the view from the enemy's eyes. At the beginning of each match, pairs of people on opposite teams will be randomly selected and will essentially swap views. Perhaps it could be linked to weight class or ELO score to keep things even.

Yes, it may sound confusing, but it's definitely doable if done right. It adds an entirely new strategic element to the game - when do you turn your torso to a wall to prevent the enemy from being able to see, and when do you look at your opponent to take a shot? This and many more points of strategy will become prominent once 2nd person is added.

I'm sure many of you are worried that it will be unbalanced, somewhat like other games' 2nd person view options, allowing you to see where the enemy team is and whatnot. However, I'm sure that by manipulating Field of View, a fair camera can be acquired for 2nd person. Furthermore, the fallback of not seeing exactly where your own mech is aiming may balance out any advantages to be even.

So stand with me and demand that PGI add 2nd person view before Launch!

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 02:20 PM

:) Nope.

#3 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 02:34 PM

Couldn't read the whole thread without laughing

#4 Flying Blind

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:05 PM

Nice bit of satire I wonder how many people will get it.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:29 PM

Post of the year. I will bump this every day until we get a dev response, if I have to.

#6 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:32 PM

;)

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:35 PM

Hey guys, havent you heard the view mode? +9999999 person mode!

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:45 PM

View PostWhite Bear 84, on 08 July 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Hey guys, havent you heard the view mode? +9999999 person mode!

Is that like new picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture in picture module?
I hear it's amazing.

#9 PanzerMagier

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:25 PM

Yes well... *giggles*

At least he was brave enough to mention it.
You could say it's his "point of view"...

*bursts out in laughter*

#10 LogicalTightRope

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 05:30 PM

Aww darn, they moved my legitimate suggestion to the off-topic section! Talk about trying to silence the people...

Edited by LogicalTightRope, 08 July 2013 - 05:33 PM.


#11 PanzerMagier

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:22 PM

Welcome to JetCom. enjoy your stay.

#12 dal10

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:55 PM

could be worse, you could be in bird country. (with its magnificent lack of birds.)

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:22 PM

Beautiful post.

#14 kesuga7

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:44 PM

im not gonna hate but what past games has 2nd person view been in

#15 Flying Fox 333

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:12 PM

Imagine if they did this for a day on April Fool's.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:37 PM

OP, you do realize that even professional/high school essays have banned 2nd person POV... Well, I'm a rebel, so I say GO FOR IT.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:04 PM



OP needs theme music to convey just how awesome the idea is.

Edited by Renaissance, 10 July 2013 - 12:07 PM.


#18 PanzerMagier

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:11 AM

lol

#19 LogicalTightRope

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:57 AM

View Postkesuga7, on 09 July 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

im not gonna hate but what past games has 2nd person view been in

It's really not as uncommon as you may think. For instance, I believe a few parts of the Ratchet and Clank series feature a view from a hostile turret/security camera focused on your character as you move about. Correct me if I'm wrong.

View PostStalephreak, on 09 July 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

OP, you do realize that even professional/high school essays have banned 2nd person POV... Well, I'm a rebel, so I say GO FOR IT.

Those bureaucrats who make the rules don't understand the various advantages to 2nd person. In the case of a high school essay, it really puts the reader in the center of the issue. In other cases, it allows you to see the point of view (literally and metaphorically) of others, allowing you to understand the situation it its fullest.

#20 PanzerMagier

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:08 PM

View PostLogicalTightRope, on 19 July 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

Those bureaucrats who make the rules don't understand the various advantages to 2nd person. In the case of a high school essay, it really puts the reader in the center of the issue. In other cases, it allows you to see the point of view (literally and metaphorically) of others, allowing you to understand the situation it its fullest.


The problems is that with first person gives you a better direct view on the center of the issue. Where as 3rd person view will give you an even greater scope when it comes to showing various perspective. 2nd person view just confuses both, causes a lot grammatical issues. Honestly it's almost begging new learners to write complete ****. There's a good reason why they took it out even if bureaucratic slobs gave the order.



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