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[Mogney]

CPLT-C4

Dont know why its showing I have extra weight, I don't.

Anyways, I would like to make it faster, have a better close range weapon, and more missiles. Any suggestions from those to whom catapults are old hat?

[Racklesnack]

Hows this? http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a703868472719ba not much more speed but should pack more of a close range punch.

[Inkarnus]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97391ae3bc947fb

[Orthodontist]

The C4 is unique in that it is the only mech where you can fire 80LRMs in one solid volley. Although not viable, its still pretty cool to core out people with salvo.

Glass cannon build.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c8bd997b7c3f79f

Edited by Orthodontist, 10 July 2013 - 02:42 PM.

[Jay Z]

Lerms
Brawler

[ShadowbaneX]

Inkarnus, on 10 July 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97391ae3bc947fb

This is very similar to what I use.

Engine: XL 300
Heat Sinks: 10 Doubles
Weapons: 2x LRM15 + Artemis, 2x Streaks, 2x ML & AMS
Armour: 416/422 (take 3 points off each leg)
Jump Jets: 2
Ammo: 1 ton Streak, 6 tons LRM & 1 ton AMS.
Extra: Beagle Active Probe

So, it's a 30 tube missile support mech and it's decent enough at it's job. No TAG, but the back-up weapons mean that if some Jenner or Raven jumps you thinking you're easy pickings, you get to laugh as you've got almost an equal amount of brawling firepower as they do, but double their armour and with Beagle to counter ECM and to help with targeting, it's fairly easy to get a lock and blast anything that gets in close.

[Modo44]

If you want to take LRMs, take 20s, which this mech was built for. I use 2xMLAS+2xSSRM2+2xLRM20(Artemis). LRM40 is plenty of damage at a distance, and the streaks+lazors make for a bad day for anyone who thinks of my Cat as easy pray. You can swap one laser for a TAG if you feel you need it, but that will make you more reliant on team protection.

[RecklessFable]

I've tried 2xLRM2+artemis, tag, I stay back, I shoot at stuff when I get lock.

I finish a battle with very little damage <100. I'm just somehow not feeling this LRM thing...

[ExAstris]

This is my favorite mech in the game. Well, at least when missiles are aren't complete crap. Right now their usable in normal matches, but not really top tier weapons.

Anyways, I run 3 versions of this machine:

Brawler: 2mlas 4SRM6 with a standard 275, ams, case, and bap. Its fairly decent as it has great torso twist for defensive maneuvering and pro enemies will often shoot out your sides in brawls thinking all cats carry XLs (they almost all do). Plus, BAP is a must for mechs of the line and scouts, and AMS is currently at its best.

Pure LRM: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e679513aa6930a
Far more viable than the gimmick build found above. Artemis + TAG lets you really hammer down on enemies and 60 missiles in a quarter second is enough alpha to really punish people who stay in the open. Has the usual drawback of a pure LRM boat. ANY enemy gets within 180m and its entirely up to your teammates whether you live or die. Awesome when it works. Facedesking, 0 damage matches when it doesn't.

Balanced: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d2cd1369573c8a9
My favorite build. Dual 20s with artemis and tag mean you can concentrate the horrendous spread on the 20s enough to punish heavies/assaults with nearly all torso hits. It won't be all CT like the 6x5 A1 builds, but it will take advantage of allies missing shots and blow off damaged sides. Then you have dual ASRM6s to deal with rushers and flankers. Its not enough to win a duel against a competent brawler who outmaneuvered you, but your job in the Cat is to bring fire support at the second line, and if you're doing your job right, most enemies that get to you will either be because your team is dead and you don't stand a chance anyways, or because they broke through your line to do it, meaning you should be starting with the armor advantage and have more support nearby.

I've found the dual 6s to be enough to scare off lights before they can disable you and to outright win some duels with mediums (especially ones who spent most of their mass on an engine to outflank you). Being able to hold your own against those means you'll spend ALOT more time actually supporting with your LRMs and getting a lot more kills against enemies who beeline to you once they see LRMs in your weapon list thinking they'll be safe if they can only get inside 180m. And the 69.9 kph (speed tweaked) speed means you can usually put yourself in a good strategic spot with respect to your main cluster and your enemies (by far the most important skill for an LRM-heavy pilot).

[ShadowbaneX]

RecklessFable, on 08 August 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

I've tried 2xLRM2+artemis, tag, I stay back, I shoot at stuff when I get lock.

I finish a battle with very little damage <100. I'm just somehow not feeling this LRM thing...

Just because you've got a lock doesn't mean you'll hit.

If your target is more than 1000 meters away your missiles will self-destruct before hitting anything.
If your target puts cover between themselves and your missiles, no damage.
If you lose your target lock the missiles will go to where your target last was, ie if they move, they miss.

And all this doesn't even factor in AMS.

You have to know when to take your shots. If you just fire the moment you've got a lock, yeah, 100 damage per match sounds about right.

[Modo44]

RecklessFable, on 08 August 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

I finish a battle with very little damage <100. I'm just somehow not feeling this LRM thing...

You need good lock, not just lock. This involves waiting a bit to see if a target is actually locked or just shown (scouts will often keep enemies selected just long enough to see their weapons, then switch), asking team mates to hold targets for LRM, and spotting yourself (especially with Artemis, which only helps if you look at the target directly). 500 damage is not unheard of -- if you know when to take a risk to put some alphastrikes into unsuspecting targets (LRMs and SSRMs/SRMs/Medium Lasers work in tandem between 180m and 270m).

Edited by Modo44, 08 August 2013 - 11:46 PM.

[Targeting Error]

You can drop artemis completely. I mastered Catapults awhile ago. Artemis only matters if you are doing direct fire, and even then, it doesn't do a lot relative to the crit slots and the tonnage it eats up. Catapults are always running a fine line between enough ammo and armor as it is. Always run your XL300. Running a standard engine in that chassis is a waste. Tag is a must, as is BAP to cut ECM near you. Jump Jets - you really only need one to help with mobility, you cannot get fast enough with the mech for the other 3 to really matter. If you are worried about overheating due to the alpha penalties, just chain fire.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d613c706d730dda is a safer version to run...

And Brawling in a catapult is a BAD IDEA. SSRMS or not, your CT is huge, and you probably run an XL engine because of it. Your head is also stupidly easy to hit at short range. Stay near the pack, and even at long range, don't just stand in one spot and launch volley after volley. Be a moving LRM platform. It makes you way harder to flank.

Edited by Targeting Error, 10 August 2013 - 09:27 AM.