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[Lefty McBoom]

Just had game after game of missles just pouring down from nowhere and killing me before I could even engage. So no more brawling? I know what I sound like right now, and I'm a little frustrated but I seriously had no fun tonight because of this. Now I hear they're going to raise the heat on PPC's again? So is this just going to become Missle Warrior Online? Just asking to tone the missles down a little and let us fight. Thanks.

[Johnny Reb]

Heh, lrms are now useful and you want them nerfed. PPC and lack of srm damage is the brawling problem not lrms!

[DYSEQTA]

In my opinion they have now got the LRM balance pretty much perfect. I say this as someone 99% of the time on the receiving end as I don't run many mechs with LRMs.

[Victor Morson]

Mount an AMS
Run with an ECM mech
Either outrange the LRMs, outcover the LRMs, or rush inside of their minimum range.

[Kiiyor]

DYSEQTA, on 13 July 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

In my opinion they have now got the LRM balance pretty much perfect. I say this as someone 99% of the time on the receiving end as I don't run many mechs with LRMs.

I think they are perfect... except for the combination of Artemis and Tag, which sends missiles to the CT like its the only part of the mech. It's a little too deadly, IMHO. Maybe a small spread increase? Not much....

Other than that, they are amazing.

You know what else is amazing? AMS. 2 AMS will almost completely neuter an LRM15 volley, AND I STILL DON'T INSTALL IT ON ALL MY MECHS, because I've been so used to them being useless. And I'm an *****.

[Mystere]

Persians: "Our arrows will block out the sun."
Spartans: "Then we shall have our battle in the shade!"

[VitaminAcid]

i think the problem isnt LRMS, i think its lack of cover, or places to go. now with the terrain change its impossible to run up a 35 degree hill and get away from LRM fire, youre just stuck there. getting stuck on rocks the size of an Atlas's toe is the most frustrating thing when youre trying to avoid fire.

[Donnie Silveray]

I generally welcome the onset of LRMs. Although some claim they are too easy to use, quite frankly they are also easy to dodge. I managed to have two catapults packing the load of them waste upwards of 5 salvos trying to bombard me and I was behind a rock no taller than my Centurion by breaking LOS then dodging. Considering you can pretty much NEVER dodge a good shot's 6PPC alpha, I'd say this is an improvement. Although yes it is frustrating at times due to LRMs just utterly engulfing your screen, I only died, in my centurion no less, after around 10 salvos hitting me. And that was when I was engaged with two assaults after being caught out in a bad spot.

[Naelbis]

You know how to deal with LRMs? Mount AMS and don't walk in the complete open like an *****. I played a game on Alpine yesterday where 2 Stalker LRM boats were completely neutered because we all had ams and stayed close. I think I had missiles actually hit me once in a 10 min match. .

[Amsro]

LRM's are fine, i've broken down and thrown a AMS on a lot of my builds that spend a bit of time in the open, lets me get back to cover easy enough.

Soon with 2.0 SRMS brawling might become scary again

[Novakaine]

Oh Jebus forbid you have to use terrain to get to missle boat.
Yeah your short range laser boat should be able to just stroll across the field to get me huh?
Stop the cheese people.
Start carrying weapons for all the ranges.
Even in my missle boat I can still fight at short and medium ranges.
Just last night I pesky spider was just killin a poor Atlas on my team.
You know what I did I just lumbered over and ganked him with my streaks and medium lasers.
The poor sucker just ignored me because he thought I was just cheese lrm build.
1 dead spider.
1 new friend on my friend tab.
1 win.
Nuff said.

[C A R N A G E]

Lrms are easy to deal with just use ams and use cover according to situation. Lol never get caught in the open.now the current ppc situation is a bit more tricky to avoid,seems like half the enemy are using loads of them.:-)

[Hellhammer]

Then its mandatory to make AMS better.

[Tezcatli]

LRMs are great. If no one has ECM. You have tag. And Artemis. And you're firing enough LRMs to get through AMS.

[IceSerpent]

Hellhammer, on 13 July 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

Then its mandatory to make AMS better.

It's already as good as it should be.

[Kunae]

Give me back my real SRM damage and spread, and I'll be the counter to LRMs.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

Without strong LRMs we get more PPC boats.

at least I can mount an AMS that takes out a good chunk of missiles.
Cant do that with PPCs

[East Indy]

Use cover and you don't need to worry much at all.

I learned my lesson early. Yikes!

[The Strange]

LRMs are fine the way they are now. Use cover or AMS. If the enemy gets a scout behind you to provide targets, and has 2 or more LRM boats that are focusing on one mech, it's going to die pretty quick. It just part of the game. Kill or chase off the scout. We really need to, as a community, stop whining about every weapon that kills us in a game.

[PEEFsmash]

Lefty McBoom, on 13 July 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

Just had game after game of missles just pouring down from nowhere and killing me before I could even engage. So no more brawling? I know what I sound like right now, and I'm a little frustrated but I seriously had no fun tonight because of this. Now I hear they're going to raise the heat on PPC's again? So is this just going to become Missle Warrior Online? Just asking to tone the missles down a little and let us fight. Thanks.

Proof that people will never all admit they are "having fun" until they stop getting killed by things.

This is a thread for player experience feedback, not balance discussion.