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[Joseph Mallan]

Dart Nimrod, on 22 July 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

I don't understand, why everybody is so obsessed with these PPC mutants? I've never had any serious problem with this freaky build. In fact I don't care about PPC boats at all. The only reason, why I'm so disappointed with this heat scale addition, is that it has made almost useless those LRM boats, which carried four LRM15s, not to mention AC/40 Jagers and Catapults.

Jumping snipers on the other hand, that's what was the real pain in a ***, and I'm glad they've been nerfed. Not much, but enough to stop that disaster, when few Gauss+few ERPPCs+jump jets Highlanders almost guaranteed victory.

Mechs with 4 LRM 15s are coming in the near to distant future, and AC40s... well they were heat efficient and powerful. Two things nobody seems to want in this version of MW.

[Dart Nimrod]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Mechs with 4 LRM 15s are coming in the near to distant future, and AC40s... well they were heat efficient and powerful. Two things nobody seems to want in this version of MW.

Forgive my bad knowledge of english, what do you mean by saying "Mechs with 4 LRM 15s are coming in the near to distant future"?

[Joseph Mallan]

Dart Nimrod, on 22 July 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

Forgive my bad knowledge of english, what do you mean by saying "Mechs with 4 LRM 15s are coming in the near to distant future"?

3055. Depending if PGI tries to stay at a 1:1 timeline it is 5 years off or less if they are willing to warp time a little.

[MisterFiveSeven]

Do you ever get the feeling that the only reason this thread wasn't locked is because there are more yes than no votes?

[Joseph Mallan]

That Gap is closing so a lock may be in the near future.

[FupDup]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

That Gap is closing so a lock may be in the near future.

We've still got 54 votes to go, though, so I wouldn't consider that to be "closing." A few days ago the gap was actually quite smaller (like 20-30).

[Joseph Mallan]

I have to smash my head on something Tungsten. Why he heck do all the weapons have a >9.0 penalty except the AC20? +24 Is so ridiculous it is insulting.

[FupDup]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

I have to smash my head on something Tungsten. Why he heck do all the weapons have a >9.0 penalty except the AC20? +24 Is so ridiculous it is insulting.

Don't worry, the Gauss Rifle will probably get an even higher penalty than that.


How high, you ask? Let's ask Vegeta:

Edited by FupDup, 22 July 2013 - 06:01 PM.

[Dart Nimrod]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

3055. Depending if PGI tries to stay at a 1:1 timeline it is 5 years off or less if they are willing to warp time a little.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was pretty sure, that few Stalkers and Awesome 8R already can carry 4 LRM15s.

[Joseph Mallan]

Dart Nimrod, on 22 July 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was pretty sure, that few Stalkers and Awesome 8R already can carry 4 LRM15s.

Had to double check as the 8R is not a common Variant at my old table:

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AWS-8R - The 8R variant of the Awesome was introduced in 2683^[6], and is also focused on long range damage but dispenses with the traditional energy-based loadout, armed with two LRM-15 launchers and a Large Laser, but also retains the Small Laser. While providing long range damage potential equal to that of the 8Q, the heavy dependence on ammunition limits the amount of time a barrage can be maintained to just under a minute and a half

2 LRM 15s.

Stalkers played with less LRMs or Bigger LRMs but to my reading not more than 2 LRMs at a time at our present timeline.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 22 July 2013 - 06:13 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

FupDup, on 22 July 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

Don't worry, the Gauss Rifle will probably get an even higher penalty than that.


How high, you ask? Let's ask Vegeta:

I would Like your post, But I cannot. I just cannot.

[FupDup]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

I would Like your post, But I cannot. I just cannot.

Yes you can, you just gotta believe in yourself!

[Royalewithcheese]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

I have to smash my head on something Tungsten. Why he heck do all the weapons have a >9.0 penalty except the AC20? +24 Is so ridiculous it is insulting.

Well, you see, a 40 point pinpoint alpha is horribly unbalanced, and running two of the same weapon is ~*~boating~*~! (35 point alphas that can be delivered from across the map from a chassis with better armor and jump jets are totes fine though, as are 40 point PPC alphas as long as you mix up your PPC types.)

[Joseph Mallan]

Actually it is just as powerful as a single AC20 on TT so the whole 40 point Alpha argument is bunk.

[Dart Nimrod]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

Had to double check as the 8R is not a common Variant at my old table:
2 LRM 15s.

Stalkers played with less LRMs or Bigger LRMs but to my reading not more than 2 LRMs at a time at our present timeline.

Actually I was talking about MWO mechs.

[Joseph Mallan]

Dart Nimrod, on 22 July 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

Actually I was talking about MWO mechs.

Those are not Canon Builds, they are player MODs. and Simulate future canon builds.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 22 July 2013 - 06:35 PM.

[Royalewithcheese]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

Actually it is just as powerful as a single AC20 on TT so the whole 40 point Alpha argument is bunk.

shh... don't talk too loudly or they'll realize that the 8Q is basically a 6xPPC Stalker with better heat management...

oh wait they nerfed the 8Q, too.

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 22 July 2013 - 06:37 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Royalewithcheese, on 22 July 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

shh... don't talk too loudly or they'll realize that the 8Q is basically a 6xPPC Stalker with better heat management...

oh wait they nerfed the 8Q, too.

Yes.

[Dart Nimrod]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

Those are not Canon Builds, they are player MODs. and Simulate future canon builds.

Damn, man! All this sh*t is so confusing and hard to understand.

[Joseph Mallan]

Dart Nimrod, on 22 July 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

Damn, man! All this sh*t is so confusing and hard to understand.

Naw you just need to to google the Mech you want to see (ie Awesome Mech) hen click on the Sarna.net/Wiki.

They are a pretty good source for canon builds.