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[Nicholas Carlyle]

blinkin, on 16 July 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

ok that was a reading comprehension failure on my part. i was only thinking about the ER large lasers and forgot about the ERPPC.

No bigs, I can't believe they released this system without including it. Almost a waste of time since it's so easy to circumvent for the next 2 weeks at least.

I'm still not sold on why anyone would care about 7 extra heat anyway.

Actually what I'm curious about...so if ER PPC's and PPC's go on the same "heat penalty", which modifier will they use?

For instance, I believe PPC is 7 and ER PPC is 4.5.

If you use 2 ER PPC's and 1 PPC, do you get 4.5 extra heat?

If you use 2 PPC's and 1 ER PPC is it 7 extra heat?

Or will they find a middle ground?

[Miekael]

Heat changes did not effect any build I use. My ER PPC, PPC x 2, Gauss highlander is still ready to poptart. Curious as to what mind boggling idea PGI will put out to fix that build.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Miekael, on 16 July 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

Heat changes did not effect any build I use. My ER PPC, PPC x 2, Gauss highlander is still ready to poptart. Curious as to what mind boggling idea PGI will put out to fix that build.

Well July 30th it will be effected, but god only knows how exactly. Worst case might be 7 extra heat per alpha,

WOO. That's rough.

[Wintersdark]

KAT Ayanami, on 16 July 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

The new system is dumber that what I thought.

It makes no sense that one AC20 is 10 heat, but if you shoot 2, the heat goes up to 40.

LOL. Ballistics doing 40 heat..... crazy....

Not complaining about it, I can shoot one at a time. But the end result is dumber that what I thought it would be.

No worries. Just swap out your second AC20 for a pair of PPC's. Same damage, better range, less ammo consumption.

[Fulcrom Kerensky]

Vote doesn't go the way you agree with? Insult the people voting for the other side. I love these forums.

[Miekael]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 16 July 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Well July 30th it will be effected, but god only knows how exactly. Worst case might be 7 extra heat per alpha,

WOO. That's rough.

Yeah big whoop, that is so going to effect me as I land behind cover and wait for JJs to recharge.

Edit: which also brings another point, if both PPCs and ER PPCs are going to share the same boating penalty, do you get effected by the excess ER or Regular PPC scale? It would be funny if it ended up taking on the ER PPC penalty of 4.5.

Edited by Miekael, 16 July 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Miekael, on 16 July 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

Yeah big whoop, that is so going to effect me as I land behind cover and wait for JJs to recharge.

See this right here is what I was wondering.

I guess I understand the guy with the Atlas RS, they are a terrible sniping mech.

But with the Highlander, the damn extra heat doesn't matter.

[Trauglodyte]

This patch didn't do anything and everyone knew that it wouldn't do anything. What it does is 1) make it more difficult for new players and 2) punishes bad/dumb players that were doing a poor job of following the meta. Furthermore, while it scares the crap out of people running, say, dual AC/20s it did nothing but allow them to shift to dual Gauss thus giving them similar damage but at a much greater range for a loss in speed (oh no!), weapon vulnerability (on no!), and less heat sinks due to no heat (oh no!).

[Trev Firestorm]

It doesn't affect a single one of my builds (mostly mediums) but its the worst of the possible ideas floating around, also it appears to have spawned some strange bugs for ac/2s...

[Fulcrom Kerensky]

Trev Firestorm, on 16 July 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

It doesn't affect a single one of my builds (mostly mediums) but its the worst of the possible ideas floating around, also it appears to have spawned some strange bugs for ac/2s...

What kind of bugs I heard of a heat bug is there something else?

[Unbound Inferno]

Unbound Inferno, on 16 July 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Should add a disclaimer. Those answering Yes aren't noticing or are getting around it with no noticeable changes.

Fulcrom Kerensky, on 16 July 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

Vote doesn't go the way you agree with? Insult the people voting for the other side. I love these forums.

[Sybreed]

hasn't changed anything imo

[Trev Firestorm]

Fulcrom Kerensky, on 16 July 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

What kind of bugs I heard of a heat bug is there something else?

mistype, I was going to mention a mlas bug but I couldn't confirm it as true.

[blinkin]

Trev Firestorm, on 16 July 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

mistype, I was going to mention a mlas bug but I couldn't confirm it as true.

i know i suffered a weird heat bug today where i died to overheat effects while at 7% heat. already submitted a ticket.

[Corvus Antaka]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 16 July 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

No bigs, I can't believe they released this system without including it. Almost a waste of time since it's so easy to circumvent for the next 2 weeks at least.

I'm still not sold on why anyone would care about 7 extra heat anyway.

Actually what I'm curious about...so if ER PPC's and PPC's go on the same "heat penalty", which modifier will they use?

For instance, I believe PPC is 7 and ER PPC is 4.5.

If you use 2 ER PPC's and 1 PPC, do you get 4.5 extra heat?

If you use 2 PPC's and 1 ER PPC is it 7 extra heat?

Or will they find a middle ground?

probably why we wait until the 30th for these changes.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 16 July 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

probably why we wait until the 30th for these changes.

Yeah, I guess I just question the priorities sometimes.

[blinkin]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 16 July 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

Yeah, I guess I just question the priorities sometimes.

it could simply be that their weapons system isn't as unified as it needs to be. before the PPC and ERPPC never needed to be related in the game environment in any way. now the system needs to count them together for this specific case. if they were not designed for that in the first place then they either need to do some reworks or design a system to work around the limitation. either way it will require more coding, how much depends on how their system is designed.

Edited by blinkin, 16 July 2013 - 07:12 PM.

[Farpenoodle]

I like it more than I dislike it right now. But I'd like a wait and see option on the poll.

[christophermx4]

I have seen more varied builds then I've seen in a long time. Games seem to be more of a mix of brawling and sniping as opposed to just...PPC.

Honestly, I like the change.

But hey, what do I know? Clearly, I haven't spent the last 9 months pouring over every detail in the game, and writing manifestos when PGI doesn't march to my beat.

[XX Sulla XX]

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I have seen more varied builds then I've seen in a long time. Games seem to be more of a mix of brawling and sniping as opposed to just...PPC.

Same for me.