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[Narcissistic Martyr]

PGI has delayed the Flea again! Some say that this is because PGI is having trouble with cry engine being able to handle the speeds a MASC enhanced flea could run. If that were the case PGI would just release the chassis. After all, they released the Raven before ECM was added to the game.

When one also considers the fact that no new artwork has been released for several months and that with the clans coming mechs that could be used by both sides are a better investment of time allowing the clans to have a reasonable . The Flea is a false flag, a front, a trojan horse, a placeholder, a LIE! Join me in demanding PGI reveal the truth!

Below is the what is most likely true form of the "Flea." It's name is the Locust! A mech with so much speed and produced in such quantities that if dropped from a Union drop ship they would block out the sun and then swarm across the land. The Locust has a huge variety of hard points compared to the Flea and it has the potential max speed to actually be useful at 20 tons. All hail the return of the unseen! A return to the glorious age of mech warfare with the greatest chassis the inner sphere has to offer! Chassis so great that even the clans use them.

[Phoenix Gray]

The Locust is an Unseen design and will never happen unless you want to spring for the trademark lawsuit legal bills.

[Bunko]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 25 April 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

After all, they released the Raven before ECM was added to the game.

ECM was released at the same time as the Raven.

But I think you are correct about them delaying cause of MASC.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Phoenix Gray, on 25 April 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

The Locust is an Unseen design and will never happen unless you want to spring for the trademark lawsuit legal bills.

Incorrect, the Locust is reseen as of Record Sheets: Operation Klondike. It's not the same as the image I posted above but clearly a redesigned version would be kosher.

Long live the unseen! Long live the reseen unseen! All hail the Locust!

Bunko, on 25 April 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

ECM was released at the same time as the Raven.

But I think you are correct about them delaying cause of MASC.

Mere trickery! What purpose does the Flea serve? What role? None that cannot be done better by a Jenner, Spider, or Raven. It's too slow and MASC freezes you up if it's used for more than a few seconds. While the Locust at it's maximum legal speed with the 1.5x stock engine size is about 200 kph. Now that's worth having on your team.

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 25 April 2013 - 04:41 PM.

[Ozric]

It's the amount of win. The game can't handle that amount of win in such a tiny mech right now.

[Eddrick]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 25 April 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

Incorrect, the Locust is reseen as of Record Sheets: Operation Klondike. It's not the same as the image I posted above but clearly a redesigned version would be kosher.

Long live the unseen! Long live the reseen unseen! All hail the Locust!

Not sure what the stance is on the "Reseen". But, it does look a lot like MWO's Catapult.

[Asakara]

I remember back when there were only 2 Jenners in game because they would not release the Jenner K until they put ferro fibrous in as well.

[TheGreatNoNo]

Because non of us have shown enough moxxie for a flea with a couple of machine guns.


except maybe a few spider pilots......

Edited by Lost One, 25 April 2013 - 05:16 PM.

[CranstonSnord]

We need the Flea! I'd go with flamer, MG and AMS.

[Merky Merc]

Didn't the Locust have about as much armor as a box of kleenex?

[Sybreed]

Bunko, on 25 April 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

ECM was released at the same time as the Raven.

But I think you are correct about them delaying cause of MASC.

so wrong, Raven was released way before ECM and BAP were in-game. It had the equipment, but it did nothing, nada, rien.

[Durant Carlyle]

There's actually a Locust with max armor (69 in CBT, would be 138 in MW:O), which is more armor than the stock Spider and Jenner. Not only that, but it speeds around at 194 kph and has a decent armament of one ER Medium Laser and four ER Small Lasers. Of course, it doesn't come into the timeline until later due to the ER weapons.

Edited by Durant Carlyle, 25 April 2013 - 05:50 PM.

[Utilyan]

There might be another possibility they want to fix up a hero first, kinda like the highlander?

[TungstenWall]

Utilyan, on 25 April 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

There might be another possibility they want to fix up a hero first, kinda like the highlander?

Flea Hero:
The Eater of Worlds
LA: 1MG, 1SML
LT: 1MG ammo, CASE
CT: 1 ML
RT:
RA: 1MG, 1SML

[Lord de Seis]

The Locust is no longer an unseen mech:

The Reseen are 'Mechs that were formerly Unseen but thanks to negotiations with the property owners are now present in the BattleTech universe. They include the Locust, Griffin, Shadow Hawk, Thunderbolt, Scorpion, Wolverine, and BattleMaster.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Reseen

At the moment the only Unseen mechs are the ones from Macross:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

So it doesn't look like we will see the likes of the Marauder, Warhammer or Archer.... It could be argued that the concept art in MWO online is quite different from the orginial artwork though so you never know. I doubt PGI wants to get involved with all the legality surrounding them.

Give me the Griffin, Wolverine and Battlemaster please PGI.

Edited by Lord de Seis, 25 April 2013 - 10:26 PM.

[Varnas]

Lord de Seis, on 25 April 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:

Give me the Griffin, Wolverine and Battlemaster please PGI.

And my scorpion. But PGI would be too lazy to implement something like quads.

[Cairbre]

In every alpha test, Flea code infested mechbays, and crashed matchmaking. The matchmaker added Fleas to every match, leading to frequent 9vs 8s.

[Lee Ving]

"Larger than the original Locust, the IIC gives MechWarriors comparable speed with more protection and terrifying offensive capabilities. The main armament consists of a Medium Pulse Laser, flanked by eight Extended Range Small Lasers"

Just you wait for the Locust IIC reseen version. The tears shall overflow-ith.

[Joseph Mallan]

Phoenix Gray, on 25 April 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

The Locust is an Unseen design and will never happen unless you want to spring for the trademark lawsuit legal bills.

And yet it looks enough like a MWO Flea that I would happily call it a Locust!

[Zoccola]

Lord de Seis, on 25 April 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:

The Locust is no longer an unseen mech:

The Reseen are 'Mechs that were formerly Unseen but thanks to negotiations with the property owners are now present in the BattleTech universe. They include the Locust, Griffin, Shadow Hawk, Thunderbolt, Scorpion, Wolverine, and BattleMaster.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Reseen

At the moment the only Unseen mechs are the ones from Macross:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

So it doesn't look like we will see the likes of the Marauder, Warhammer or Archer.... It could be argued that the concept art in MWO online is quite different from the orginial artwork though so you never know. I doubt PGI wants to get involved with all the legality surrounding them.

Give me the Griffin, Wolverine and Battlemaster please PGI.

Yes and no.
The copyright legalities have been cleared and the "Reseen" are available to included once again in the Battletech Universe through the medium of print (and maybe miniatures), as owned by Catalyst Games.

At this time, I do not believe PGI has permission to use the Reseen IP. I believe they might petition for it, but I think they will have to present a case for the transfer of IP from the medium(s) of print and miniatures(?), to a digital modeling represented in a video game, freely distributed.