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[Duban]

Hi All,

I have finally saved up enough C-Bills for my first mech, so working on a versatile build that will be fun to play.

Right now I have a build using a K-2 chassis with 2x ER-PPC and 2x 5AC. The biggest shortcoming I see to this so far is I can only fit 3 tons of ammo for the 5ACs since I am using both ferro and endo so I have enough tonnage available for armor.

However, on the bright side I anticipate it will pack a punch at range, be able to hold its own in close combat with the help of the 5ACs, and with a 300XL it will be a lot faster & more manueverable than the trial Atlas I am currently waddling around in.

That said, since this would be my first purchase I'd love to get some more experienced players to check out the build & let me know if they see any major shortcomings - or ideas for how to fit in more ammo without sacrificing anything major.

Thanks

Link to build: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a78ac7c2d3ebab7

[One Medic Army]

Looks quite doable, especially if you can stay at range.

From looking at the build you're going to have issues with hills, heat and ammo.
Make sure to stay back from hills enough that your torso elevation will let you aim at people on them.
Since you've only got 3 tons of AC/5 you'll want to save those for good shots or when you're too hot for the ERPPCs.
You'll also want to remember that your two different projectiles have different speeds, so don't use them both at the same time against moving targets.

I run a similar build, with 2 more DHS, 5tons of ammo, and ERLarges instead of ERPPCs. It's quite effective at range.

As to the actual build, if you shave the arms to 3armor each and drop Ferro you can pick up a 4th ton of ammo, I find that once the arms are gone people are more likely to ignore you, and also the arms don't really help your survivability much, as the high mount keeps them from absorbing much fire aimed at the torso.

Edited by One Medic Army, 22 July 2013 - 04:41 PM.

[BP Raven]

Put the PPCs in the arms, that's what they're there for. You get more elevation fromt he cat's arms than torso, so you'll be able to shoo the PPCs up/down hills when the ACs just shoot into it.

[Elyam]

Consider dropping to standard PPCs. The ACs and your good maneuverability/speed have your close range covered (not optimally, but enough), and since you don't have room for more sinks, you'll do far better on hot maps with the lower heat. If you stay with ER, you'll need very good trigger control. Also, consider moving them to the arms. The K2 has great high cannons for ease of firing over obstacles while still under partial cover. Also consider engine reduction to get 2 MLAS in just for close-in defense.

Edited by Elyam, 22 July 2013 - 04:45 PM.

[Escef]

Move one ton of ammo to the head, move the peepers out to the arms (make sure you turn off the arm/torso lock in your options so that you can actually use the huge elevation range on those arms). If the heat on the peepers is too much consider swapping to non-ER models or Large Pulse Lasers. The LPL has really short range, but does very good damage for less heat.

[Yiazmat]

^^^^ Um, are you high? Never, EVER put ammo in a catapult cockpit. Is hit box is very large and easy to rake out with fire in combat (I always aim for cat cockpits) The ammo in the legs you had is fine.

But like others said, ppcs in the arms. Great for shooting over cover.

[Escef]

Yiazmat, on 22 July 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

^^^^ Um, are you high? Never, EVER put ammo in a catapult cockpit. Is hit box is very large and easy to rake out with fire in combat (I always aim for cat cockpits) The ammo in the legs you had is fine.

The head is the first location ammo gets pulled from. And I've NEVER lost a pult to ammo explosion in the head. Also, even if, by the time the opponent is critting your head, you're dead anyway.

[Bishop Steiner]

One Medic Army, on 22 July 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Looks quite doable, especially if you can stay at range.

From looking at the build you're going to have issues with hills, heat and ammo.
Make sure to stay back from hills enough that your torso elevation will let you aim at people on them.
Since you've only got 3 tons of AC/5 you'll want to save those for good shots or when you're too hot for the ERPPCs.
You'll also want to remember that your two different projectiles have different speeds, so don't use them both at the same time against moving targets.

I run a similar build, with 2 more DHS, 5tons of ammo, and ERLarges instead of ERPPCs. It's quite effective at range.

As to the actual build, if you shave the arms to 3armor each and drop Ferro you can pick up a 4th ton of ammo, I find that once the arms are gone people are more likely to ignore you, and also the arms don't really help your survivability much, as the high mount keeps them from absorbing much fire aimed at the torso.

am I the only one who still puts his PPCs in the arms so that I can, IDK, shoot up and down hills?

[Bishop Steiner]

Duban, on 22 July 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Hi All,

I have finally saved up enough C-Bills for my first mech, so working on a versatile build that will be fun to play.

Right now I have a build using a K-2 chassis with 2x ER-PPC and 2x 5AC. The biggest shortcoming I see to this so far is I can only fit 3 tons of ammo for the 5ACs since I am using both ferro and endo so I have enough tonnage available for armor.

However, on the bright side I anticipate it will pack a punch at range, be able to hold its own in close combat with the help of the 5ACs, and with a 300XL it will be a lot faster & more manueverable than the trial Atlas I am currently waddling around in.

That said, since this would be my first purchase I'd love to get some more experienced players to check out the build & let me know if they see any major shortcomings - or ideas for how to fit in more ammo without sacrificing anything major.

Thanks

Link to build: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a78ac7c2d3ebab7

With that build, there are two things I noted:

1) too much back armor. Swap about 10 pts per torso forward. If you get a Jenner in your hip pocket, you are probably screwed anyhow.

2) Too much engine. No real huge advantage to the speed on that design. Downgrade to a 280XL (heck, even a 260XL if you want more guns) and get another heat sink, better armor and more ammo.

otherwise, perfectly doable.
CPLT-K2

[One Medic Army]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 July 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

am I the only one who still puts his PPCs in the arms so that I can, IDK, shoot up and down hills?

It's the price I paid for mounting that much firepower: had to shave the arm armor.
Besides, I like being ignored once the arms are gone, like I'm some sort of missile-pult.