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[Burpitup]

Now with all this nerfing of the different guns with heat restrictions LRM's are king again. After i died i watched a catapult with 2 lrm 20's and 2 lrm 15's clean house. Anything over 200m died in his craziness of missles. No idea how he packed them all on. Must have had no armor. It was impressive what he could do with all that though. I did watch him core a Jager with yellow shield damage with one volley.

Mostly i have found LRM's boring. Today i may see different.

[Joseph Mallan]

Burpitup, on 22 July 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

Now with all this nerfing of the different guns with heat restrictions LRM's are king again. After i died i watched a catapult with 2 lrm 20's and 2 lrm 15's clean house. Anything over 200m died in his craziness of missles. No idea how he packed them all on. Must have had no armor. It was impressive what he could do with all that though. I did watch him core a Jager with yellow shield damage with one volley.

Mostly i have found LRM's boring. Today i may see different.

That is a Longbow variant on a 20 ton lighter Chassis. And that many missiles raining is indeed dangerous.

[FupDup]

Looks like the enemy didn't know how to hillhump (I'm assuming the LRM70 Cat was on your team).

[MasterErrant]

the terain mods aree certainly buffing LRMs.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Not really. People still aren't bringing much AMS, and people are still adjusting to the new movement system that complicates getting into cover in some areas.

What's more, this past weekend PGI had an Assault tournament, so you saw a whole bunch of big, slow targets that are prime for LRM murder, and subsequently a bunch of people in large, slow, LRM boats taking advantage of that situation. This made things even worse for lighter mechs, as getting caught out became especially punishing.

However, when the tournament influx of Assaults dies down a bit, when people start responding to LRMs by taking AMS in more builds, and when pilots start to learn the maps with the new movement system (and PGI works out some of the buggy terrain interactions), you'll see LRMs stop being dominant and return to a more apparently balanced state.

All in all, they are in decent shape right now. They still preferentially damage center torsos, and having the new SSRM guidance system adapted for LRMs would be great to mitigate this. Aside from CT damage, they're actually in a very good place.

[Renthrak]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 22 July 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

All in all, they are in decent shape right now. They still preferentially damage center torsos, and having the new SSRM guidance system adapted for LRMs would be great to mitigate this. Aside from CT damage, they're actually in a very good place.

Poll on this. Seems like people are actually receptive to the idea now.

http://mwomercs.com/...s-updated-july/

[Royalewithcheese]

How to deal with lurms: a visual guide.

[Joseph Mallan]

Hey QPwC, You need to draw the missiles in a bit steeper angle. Still hitting the rock though.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 22 July 2013 - 06:55 PM.

[Burpitup]

That is not a big enough rock anymore

[FupDup]

Burpitup, on 22 July 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

That is not a big enough rock anymore

It is if the mech hiding behind it doesn't expose itself any longer than it has to in order to take a shot at the LRM boat.

[Unbound Inferno]

Oh be quiet you people. Leave my LRMs alone!

[Damocles69]

....................................no

[Purlana]

Get a fast medium or light on the LRM boat = GG

[scJazz]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Hey QPwC, You need to draw the missiles in a bit steeper angle. Still hitting the rock though.

Obviously the missiles were launched sub-700m! They only get to very steep angles of attack at the out edge of their range.

BTW this idea of nerfing LRMs with the Streak hit table is not just bad it borders on dangerously stupid. LRMs are marginally effective weapons in the hands of skilled users who aren't doing something stupid like LRM70 Catapults. LRM70 Catapults have to exchange Armor and Engine for all those missiles. Some of the less stupid configs I come up with have less armor than a 35 ton mech, are as slow as an Atlas or slower, and only have enough ammo to fire Alphas 20 times.

Rather than demanding LRM nerfs now that they are again usable how about people who are tempted to start such threads actually... you know... do smart things like use cover, spend a few moments zoomed out so you can see that missile cloud fired and then understand what that means, mount AMS, hang out with others mounting AMS, hug the ECM Bunny on your team, learn to dodge.

In other words rather than trying to break my marginally useful toys why don't you learn how to use your own?

Edited by scJazz, 22 July 2013 - 08:10 PM.

[East Indy]

The title of the thread currently below this one is "LRMs suck and have sucked for awhile." Whoops.

LRMs are probably the finest-balanced items in the game. They're devastating in the best circumstances, tragically useless in the worst.

[KuruptU4Fun]

Royalewithcheese, on 22 July 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

How to deal with lurms: a visual guide.

[White Bear 84]

East Indy, on 22 July 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

The title of the thread currently below this one is "LRMs suck and have sucked for awhile." Whoops.

LRMs are probably the finest-balanced items in the game. They're devastating in the best circumstances, tragically useless in the worst.

exactly why you have such polarised opinions! One player gets up against the skilled player and complains they are OP, another uses them and does stuff all and complains they are NERF.

[Johnny Reb]

Purlana, on 22 July 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

Get a fast medium or light on the LRM boat = GG

Unless it is this but really am I a boat?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bd1da741be42b67

[Shalune]

East Indy, on 22 July 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

They're devastating in the best circumstances, tragically useless against good players.

[scJazz]

Johnny Reb, on 22 July 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

Unless it is this but really am I a boat?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bd1da741be42b67

GAH! My Eyes! No in this case you are just terribad! Seriously, I would like to meet you alone in a dark alley while piloting my A1.