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[PEEFsmash]

Jesus Christ there are a crapload of dumbasses in this thread.

People on the first page were suggesting that the Victor Leaderboards might not be announced because of cheating at the top of the board. The point of my post was TELL EVERYONE TO CALM DOWN and let me explain how Proton was getting these high scores, and as I said very clearly, he was spamming as many games as possible and disconnecting when things went bad. You don't have to try to cover for him (and he doesn't need to cover for himself) and talk about his connection issues, blah blah your connection didn't happen to go out right after every time you die...this is just HOW MANY PEOPLE DO IT at the top of the board! There is nothing wrong with it at all. IT IS NOT CHEATING. It is easier to get monster games if you play very aggressively. Because there is no limitation on the # of games played, you go out and play as aggressively as possible and maybe you get a monster game. When you die when you play this aggressively, as he typically did, there is no reason to sit around and watch your pugs flounder when you could be using your limited time to get into another mech and do the same with it. I also played more aggressively than normal and disconnected most of the time right when I died. Players have been doing this on the leaderboards for many months. It is not a problem with the players, it is a problem with the system if anything.

This is a simple, true, maybe not flattering explanation about how Proton scored so high in a Victor. He is a very good player who used very good leaderboard strategies to win. The whole point of my post was to brush aside the accusations of cheating.

Nooee, on 24 July 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

You should provide the proof that is not refutable. You say you were TK'ed, I do not think so. So if you were TKed then prove it. making unfounded accusations is just crying over split milk. Report it to the Dev's through support.

http://www.twitch.tv...smash/c/2608122

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You complain about an aggressive player and in the same sentence...

I never complained about an aggressive playstyle. I said how he did it, and I said if you want to limit the number of games played so the top of the boards aren't so influenced by # of games, I said how to do it.

Edited by PEEFsmash, 24 July 2013 - 06:24 PM.

[Entail]

FruitFly, on 24 July 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

I think that the community that PGI is cultivating in MWO is toxic and whiney, "Ohh no Proton is better then me i better say he is cheating and get my clan to say the same" are you kidding me? whats worse is PGI listens to this instead of just realising that pilits who suck make up for it with words and empty accusations.

That's exactly what happens with nerfs. People whine "oh _______ is so OP because it killed me last!" and PGI
listens to that input and creates unnecessary nerfs and complexities to the game!

[Skydrive]

john7677, on 24 July 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

I give up...
How do I start a Kickstarter for Rippthrough to offer him some desperately needed lessons on the semantics of the English language?

You could both stop since this will be going nowhere....

[Skydrive]

PEEFsmash, on 24 July 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

http://www.twitch.tv...smash/c/2608122

I thought you said he continued to shoot at your mech.... All I saw was what looked like an accidental team kill, him staying in place on your husk due to typing that he was sorry, and later a large laser fired at the teammate that killed you, missing, and going across your dead husk.

Edited by Skydrive, 24 July 2013 - 07:03 PM.

[PEEFsmash]

Skydrive, on 24 July 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

I thought you said he continued to shoot at your mech.... All I saw was what looked like an accidental team kill with another enemy mech firing a large laser at the teammate that killed you, missing, and going across your dead husk.

I can't tell if you are serious. First, watch my damage and how I am taking it constantly in the back from medium lasers as I chase Ed. That is him. You can follow his blue triangle from the very beginning if you'd like. Anyway, the most telling part... go to 2:51 and play it for a few seconds then keep clicking at 2:51 and watch it over and over. That is after he has alphaed me 3-4 times. He shoots me DIRECTLY in the CT with all of his alpha, overheats to do it, and lands right on top of my dead body, shutting down. You can see that as plain as day on the death cam at 2:51. He then admitted he did it on the NGNG livestream here:

14:30
http://www.twitch.tv...gtv/b/433580967

Edited by PEEFsmash, 24 July 2013 - 07:39 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

What a douche. Looks like a intentional TK to me.

Edited by Mister Blastman, 24 July 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[Kay Oss]

Mister Blastman, on 24 July 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

What a douche. Looks like a intentional TK to me.

Agreed.

Look at the angle of that kill shot. He was no where near aiming at the enemy. Absolutely no doubt on that one. He was aiming nearly 45 degrees down and the enemy was almost straight ahead.

Edited by Kay Oss, 24 July 2013 - 07:23 PM.

[PEEFsmash]

Also:

14:30
http://www.twitch.tv...gtv/b/433580967

Edited by PEEFsmash, 24 July 2013 - 07:29 PM.

[Skydrive]

PEEFsmash, on 24 July 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

I can't tell if you are serious. First, watch my damage and how I am taking it constantly in the back from medium lasers as I chase Ed. That is him. You can follow his blue triangle from the very beginning if you'd like. Anyway, the most telling part... go to 2:51 and play it for a few seconds then keep clicking at 2:51 and watch it over and over. That is after he has alphaed me 3-4 times. He shoots me DIRECTLY in the CT with all of his alpha, overheats to do it, and lands right on top of my dead body, shutting down. You can see that as plain as day on the death cam at 2:51. He then admitted he did it on the NGNG livestream.

14:30
http://www.twitch.tv...gtv/b/433580967

Actually rewatched it before reading /\ Anyways, ya, at first it did seem unintentional, but later can see that it was. Also... no idea where the hole not catching me thing came from.... Might be because it's late, but all I can think about if Pokemon... maybe also in part to the music you have playing and some old flash Pokemon video's I have seen years ago with music rather similiar....
Edit: Watched the other bit then it clicked... again, its late. Though would of been more sense if it was of you catching him.

Edited by Skydrive, 24 July 2013 - 07:51 PM.

[Legend_]

Pretty blatant team-kill, that, he should be stripped of his position and have the MC he was credited with removed.

[DragonsFire]

chiXu, on 25 July 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

Pretty blatant team-kill, that, he should be stripped of his position and have the MC he was credited with removed.

Agreed, especially if he's on record saying he blatantly TK'd.

[Villz]

haters gunna h8 dv8

[FrDrake]

Wow, pretty blatent, I went back and watched the minimap, the teamkiller disengaged from fighting an enemy just to chase PEEF around. This should not be acceptable.

[tuffy963]

PEEFsmash, on 24 July 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Jesus Christ there are a crapload of dumbasses in this thread.

Yes, and one thread hijacker...

I don't know who Proton is, I assume he got on the board the same way all of us did: skill, focus, and a bit of luck. Neither do I care about your man-crush on him that compels you to come to his defense. I just want you to take your conversation to another another thread or end it (see below).

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People on the first page were suggesting that the Victor Leaderboards might not be announced because of cheating at the top of the board. The point of my post was TELL EVERYONE TO CALM DOWN and let me explain how Proton was getting these high scores...

I am calm. I would note that no one even mentioned your boyfriend before your post. As a matter of fact, after rereading your post, it is clear to me that you where really looking for an opportunity to out the the TK'er. As a reminder this board has a standing code of conduct. One of those codes is too not discuss pending or past disciplinary action against players. The person who is the target of your accusation may already be guilty in the Court of You, but PGI (and the player) deserve an opportunity to investigate the situation without you undermining their efforts out on the forums by trying to get a conviction in the Court of Public Opinion.

And now back to the real purpose of this thread: A COMPLETE declaration of the tournament results. I am still looking for something official from PGI about the missing Victor scores.

EDIT: Of course, Niko posts results minutes before I post this... Thanks for the update Niko!

Edited by tuffy963, 25 July 2013 - 07:27 AM.

[LoveLost85]

PEEFsmash, on 24 July 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Jesus Christ there are a crapload of dumbasses in this thread.

People on the first page were suggesting that the Victor Leaderboards might not be announced because of cheating at the top of the board. The point of my post was TELL EVERYONE TO CALM DOWN and let me explain how Proton was getting these high scores, and as I said very clearly, he was spamming as many games as possible and disconnecting when things went bad. You don't have to try to cover for him (and he doesn't need to cover for himself) and talk about his connection issues, blah blah your connection didn't happen to go out right after every time you die...this is just HOW MANY PEOPLE DO IT at the top of the board! There is nothing wrong with it at all. IT IS NOT CHEATING. It is easier to get monster games if you play very aggressively. Because there is no limitation on the # of games played, you go out and play as aggressively as possible and maybe you get a monster game. When you die when you play this aggressively, as he typically did, there is no reason to sit around and watch your pugs flounder when you could be using your limited time to get into another mech and do the same with it. I also played more aggressively than normal and disconnected most of the time right when I died. Players have been doing this on the leaderboards for many months. It is not a problem with the players, it is a problem with the system if anything.

This is a simple, true, maybe not flattering explanation about how Proton scored so high in a Victor. He is a very good player who used very good leaderboard strategies to win. The whole point of my post was to brush aside the accusations of cheating.

http://www.twitch.tv...smash/c/2608122


I never complained about an aggressive playstyle. I said how he did it, and I said if you want to limit the number of games played so the top of the boards aren't so influenced by # of games, I said how to do it.

what a dirtbag. I was surprised he TKed you for sure, that's low, but also pretty surprised you didn't notice him as you went up that hill that he was nailing you also. too much wine peef

[FrDrake]

LoveLost85, on 25 July 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

what a dirtbag. I was surprised he TKed you for sure, that's low, but also pretty surprised you didn't notice him as you went up that hill that he was nailing you also. too much wine peef

He knew he was getting shot, he didn't realize a friendly was doing it was my interpretation, because he exclaims not when he dies, but when he sees who did it.

[Rippthrough]

It's not the first time, some of my nice teammates cored me a few times from behind over the weekend.
It's not usually so blatant though.

[Drollzy]

Thats just not right...

[Dhal]

PEEFsmash, on 24 July 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

When you die when you play this aggressively, as he typically did, there is no reason to sit around and watch your pugs flounder when you could be using your limited time to get into another mech and do the same with it... It is not a problem with the players, it is a problem with the system if anything.

I'm in the "if anything" boat here. I'm pretty new to this game but I consider that a pretty awesome feature. If I'm with friends I generally stay in the match until everyone is dead or it's over. But when you're playing with people that all have different schedules you never know how many games you're going to get. If I'm solo, I have efficiencies I want to get unlocked so not being penalized for bouncing out of a game and into the next one once I'm dead is pretty nice.

[RighteousFury]

Nice TK...