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[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Jestun, on 27 July 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

I know you are but what am i

fixed

[Jestun]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 27 July 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

fixed

I like this, it's fun when people think they are being funny but all they are doing is proving my point.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Jestun, on 27 July 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

I like this, it's fun when people think they are being funny but all they are doing is proving my point.

oh i was being far from funny. But your to old to get it.

[Erghiez06]

Jestun, on 27 July 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

This is not a balance issue.

This is "The big boys are working together! It's not fair!!1!".

This is complaining about teamwork in a team-based game with objectives instead of just TDM. Of *course* teamwork is an advantage.

There is no indicator of a pre-made in MWO, it's 100% based on guesswork. You assume they are grouped, nothing more.

I am just going to further assume that you have again failed to read anything that is being said by myself or anyone else. To assume that the group was completely random because our team lost is a bit short sighted. Unless the game chooses to filter and cherry pick players who are not only piloting the same model of mech but further the search by including matching sets of color and camo details than I'll secede to your argument that I am only whining because I lost.

Its one thing to assume its a premade because I lost. Its an entirely different thing to disregard the blatantly obvious signs that this was indeed a premade, but to iterate I'll point a few of them out.

1.) Jenners... 6 of them. That would mean 6 out of the allotted 8 players on that team were allowed by the server to enter the game. If this wasn't a premade that is nothing more than an incredible oversight of imbalance.

2.) Matching colors and camo decals. I somehow imagined that those matching colors are used as an advertisement of sides or teamwork thus implying their entry was premeditated. A premade.

3.) The incredible detailed coordinated working in a very impressive concert. While I find the idea of this imbalance to be an issue, even I have to applaud the skill invoked by these players. 6 Jenners all striking the same target at the same time in a single unified pass in a large cluster of other players? I'm sorry, but its just hard for me to ignore that this was a premade.

[Jestun]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 27 July 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

oh i was being far from funny.

Something we agree on.

Erghiez06, on 27 July 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

I am just going to further assume that you have again failed to read anything that is being said by myself or anyone else. To assume that the group was completely random because our team lost is a bit short sighted. Unless the game chooses to filter and cherry pick players who are not only piloting the same model of mech but further the search by including matching sets of color and camo details than I'll secede to your argument that I am only whining because I lost.

Its one thing to assume its a premade because I lost. Its an entirely different thing to disregard the blatantly obvious signs that this was indeed a premade, but to iterate I'll point a few of them out.

1.) Jenners... 6 of them. That would mean 6 out of the allotted 8 players on that team were allowed by the server to enter the game. If this wasn't a premade that is nothing more than an incredible oversight of imbalance.

2.) Matching colors and camo decals. I somehow imagined that those matching colors are used as an advertisement of sides or teamwork thus implying their entry was premeditated. A premade.

3.) The incredible detailed coordinated working in a very impressive concert. While I find the idea of this imbalance to be an issue, even I have to applaud the skill invoked by these players. 6 Jenners all striking the same target at the same time in a single unified pass in a large cluster of other players? I'm sorry, but its just hard for me to ignore that this was a premade.

All still assumptions.

Google the definition of "fact", then do so again for "assumption".

[Qrbaza]

premade should fight premade... And more important for someone here calling themself BIG BOYS are actualy BIG IDOTS WITH SMALL BRAINS...

[Erghiez06]

Jestun, on 27 July 2013 - 04:47 PM, said:

Something we agree on.



All still assumptions.

Google the definition of "fact", then do so again for "assumption".

So what you're saying is that the game not only allows this kind of imbalance, but the people who spot them are conspiracy theorists working with coincidental evidence?

Is it just me or am I the only person seeing the decreasing validity in your argument?

I would suggest googling "theory, coincidence, or perception," but those would undermine your intelligence and since you seem to have some I'd rather not presume that you are unable to put simple pieces together.

If you can provide me evidence that my argument is invalid than please do so. Your argument is vague and without merit or function.

[Tsig]

I would be all for an in-game VoIP program, but I'd end up muting it anyway. I wouldn't use it simply because there would be an ****** in every game that would spam some kind of soundboard or annoying song over the mic so that nobody could actually talk about the game.


Also, any time I run with my Skjaldborg brethren, our voice chat is almost constantly filled with BS and occasionally calling out targets and loadouts. We very rarely get into "Tryhard" mode.

Edit: it's like religion all over again. "I don't have to provide any proof that I'm right, you have to provide proof that I'm wrong."
Flawed argument is flawed and you should feel bad.

[Jestun]

Erghiez06, on 27 July 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

So what you're saying is that the game not only allows this kind of imbalance, but the people who spot them are conspiracy theorists working with coincidental evidence?

Is it just me or am I the only person seeing the decreasing validity in your argument?

I would suggest googling "theory, coincidence, or perception," but those would undermine your intelligence and since you seem to have some I'd rather not presume that you are unable to put simple pieces together.

If you can provide me evidence that my argument is invalid than please do so. Your argument is vague and without merit or function.

Regardless of your pathetic attempts to insult me, did you look up the definitions as asked?

Can you tell me which applies to your statement, not based on pride but based on the actual definitions?

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Tsig, on 27 July 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

I would be all for an in-game VoIP program, but I'd end up muting it anyway. I wouldn't use it simply because there would be an ****** in every game that would spam some kind of soundboard or annoying song over the mic so that nobody could actually talk about the game.

this is why there needs to be solo and team ques! This is why voip is not the answer!

[Jestun]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 27 July 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

this is why there needs to be solo and team ques! This is why voip is not the answer!

It's really not.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Jestun, on 27 July 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

It's really not.

YES it is. But if you truly were against this you would be for it because you and your teams can fight other teams. You dont want fair fights because your old man hands cant keep up. *pushes glasses up* "guys guys...target bravo target bravo help me help me now I cant survive without voice comms because I suck"
if you want to make out just ask. otherwise move you 1995 56k dial up trolling somewhere else.

[Erghiez06]

Jestun, on 27 July 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

Regardless of your pathetic attempts to insult me, did you look up the definitions as asked?

Can you tell me which applies to your statement, not based on pride but based on the actual definitions?

It may seem as if I was inflecting insults, but I can assure I wasn't and I apologize for that. Though I have to take this opportunity to ask you to google search the word, "Assumption." I apologize, but I couldn't ignore the irony.

You'll have to specify how the words 'fact' and 'assumption' are relevant to any of my statements or point out which statements you would like an explanation on.

I have already made my point, and while I again admit that I am a newer player and mostly ignorant to numerous mechanics the game employs, I find it incredibly hard to believe that an oversight such as the issue in question are allowed to function at random. That alone is evidence enough to suggest that this was a premade and not a random draw of the cards.

Again I may be a new player to MWO, but that doesn't mean I am new to competitive online gaming. An imbalance like the one I am pointing out will defunct a game faster than game breaking bugs or a bad net code.

[One Medic Army]

Qrbaza, on 27 July 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

premade should fight premade...

And for the large part they do.
Typically 1 on each team from what I have personally seen.
THat still leaves half the match (or more) to be filled by random guys

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Erghiez06, on 27 July 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Again I may be a new player to MWO, but that doesn't mean I am new to competitive online gaming. An imbalance like the one I am pointing out will defunct a game faster than game breaking bugs or a bad net code.

they dont care. They are the ones who dropped the ball after 911 and allowed us to go into Iraq. They are the ones who allwed our jobs to be shipped over seas. They dont care now then pretend to care long after its to late.

[Erghiez06]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 27 July 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

they dont care. They are the ones who dropped the ball after 911 and allowed us to go into Iraq. They are the ones who allwed our jobs to be shipped over seas. They dont care now then pretend to care long after its to late.

You....Wait..W...What?

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Erghiez06, on 27 July 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

You....Wait..W...What?

is the mindset the anti solo/premades have. Like the out of touch politicians and the morons who keep vetoing them into office. They dont know how to fix the issue, they just dont want to be fair. Pull your self up by your boot strap kinda people. All the while crying its not fair while they write the laws that make it unfair.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 27 July 2013 - 05:39 PM.

[Team Leader]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 27 July 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

they dont care. They are the ones who dropped the ball after 911 and allowed us to go into Iraq. They are the ones who allwed our jobs to be shipped over seas. They dont care now then pretend to care long after its to late.

wrong website bro

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Team Leader, on 27 July 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

wrong website bro

im not a bro and if i was im not your bro. Lay off the youtube and TMZ.

[Erghiez06]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 27 July 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

is the mindset the anti solo/premades have. Like the out of touch politicians and the morons who keep vetoing them into office. They dont know how to fix the issue, they just dont want to be fair. Pull your self up by your boot strap kinda people. All the while crying its not fair while they write the laws that make it unfair.

Haha gotcha. You're initial post seemed very irrelevant, but I apologize. It was my failing to draw the now obvious comparison.