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#21 Kanajashi

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:25 AM

View PostY2kHippy, on 29 July 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

In response for Koniving's Cat A1 LRM90... How much ammo do you have in that?

I run 2,700 rounds. I am able to fire CONSTANTLY and have yet to ever run out. Even in the 12verse12 testing nights.


2,700 missiles / 180 missiles per ton = 15 tons of ammo. Your running 15 tons of ammo? If you have never run out of ammo before, that just means that you are taking too much. Cut out any ammo that you simply not using during the match and upgrade your engine/have more heat sinks, otherwise that tonnage is wasted.

Edited by Kanajashi, 29 July 2013 - 07:28 AM.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:28 AM

C1, without question. It's the best Catapult imo.

#23 Josef Nader

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:33 AM

I find TAG to be far less useful than a fourth medium laser.

You have to expose yourself too long to make good use of your own TAG. Artemis already gives you some nice bonuses in Line-of-Sight situations and it lets you maintain your mobility while you're in combat. Four medium lasers gives the C1 some serious punch in a close fight. It won't win a brawl by itself, but it will certainly finish off weakened enemies like a champ.

#24 FrDrake

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostJosef Nader, on 29 July 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

I find TAG to be far less useful than a fourth medium laser.

You have to expose yourself too long to make good use of your own TAG. Artemis already gives you some nice bonuses in Line-of-Sight situations and it lets you maintain your mobility while you're in combat. Four medium lasers gives the C1 some serious punch in a close fight. It won't win a brawl by itself, but it will certainly finish off weakened enemies like a champ.


You don't have to have TAG on them the whole time, you just have to have it on them when the missiles hit, also Tag cuts through enemy ECM because if you didn't have the TAG your LRMs would do nothing against an ECM target. I've tried them both, I consider the Tag far superior.

#25 POOTYTANGASAUR

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 11:40 AM

The C1 with this loadout: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cbe2034c36276fd (Fast and strong)
OR the C4 with this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...69b4dda20a476f8 (Very strong)
OR the A1 with this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...69b4dda20a476f8 (LRM-RAIN!)
OR the A1 with this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...69b4dda20a476f8 (beastly)

#26 Kazly

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 11:52 AM

On my C1, I have an XL300, 2 LRM10's and 2ERPPCs. It's quite fun.

Edit: I don't recommend it if you can't hit lights with ppc's though...

Edited by Kazly, 29 July 2013 - 11:52 AM.


#27 Jakob Knight

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:07 PM

Having mastered all of the Catapults, I would have to say the C1 is the most flexible. The torso-mounted energy hardpoints allow it to be configured as a direct-fire mech, while the side missile launchers also let it be built to operate as a support unit. With energy weapons, it can continue to fight after its ammunition is exhausted.

The A1, by comparison, is a dedicated missile carrier, and is limited to only LRMs and SRMs for weaponry. In addition, once it expends its ammo, it is just a couple of tons of metal on legs. While this mech can mount the most missile systems of any Catapult (making it a dangerous Streak user), the role of this mech is much more narrow. It can be configured either for LRM support or close-bombardment, and that's about it. Trying to make this mech a multimission mech usually results in it falling behind the C1 due to the need for more ammunition for its weapons, while the restriction of using only missiles also prevents it from using TAG for those missiles.

All in all, I'd take the C1 over the A1, especially as the C4 does almost the same job as the A1 with fewer restrictions.

#28 zudukai

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:07 PM

is that even a serious question!? nah CPLT-C1 always! why get a mech that's only good for one role?


favorite mech right is the -C1, serious is every respect, my go to money maker, and best second line mech i have.
this mech has earned it's respect, you should try it.

*edits.

Edited by zudukai, 29 July 2013 - 01:12 PM.


#29 JC Daxion

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:29 PM

thanks a bunch, as always this forum gives tons of excellent advice..


I think i will go with the A1.. I really love missiles, and to me a Cat says missiles!



I think this will be my last mech for a while.. (unless i break down and pick up a raven 4x) But i really need to start saving for modules, and finally install a few into my mechs.



A side question though, Once you buy a module, can you swap them from mech to mech or are they like the other upgrades as in endo steel, where it is one mech only?

#30 Kazly

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:39 PM

Yes, you can swap them from mech to mech.

#31 zudukai

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

View PostJC Daxion, on 29 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

thanks a bunch, as always this forum gives tons of excellent advice..


I think i will go with the A1.. I really love missiles, and to me a Cat says missiles!



I think this will be my last mech for a while.. (unless i break down and pick up a raven 4x) But i really need to start saving for modules, and finally install a few into my mechs.



A side question though, Once you buy a module, can you swap them from mech to mech or are they like the other upgrades as in endo steel, where it is one mech only?

ouch... suit yourself...

#32 = Tin Man =

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:55 PM

A1 is really good, but only having missiles has its limitations...

#33 Lugh

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:56 PM

View PostJC Daxion, on 27 July 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

so i need one more cat.... Both seem really interesting


the 6 missle cat.. I was thinking,, 2 streaks, 2 srm6's, and 2 lrm 15's... Not sure what engine will fit, but it seems like it should work??



my other idea was.. 4 Medium pulse, with a pair of 15's,.. Or a pair of large pulse with dual 20's?


I know.. there is that mech lab thingy.. but i swear i can't get it to work on my comp... so i was wondering if this was something i could do...



i'm trying to decide my last mech bay, to get my cats to master... what do you think i should choose???


(going by my choices you should know i own a cat K2, and C4 already..)



soooo thoughts????? PS i really like missles... :)

C1 give you way more flexibility AND you can equip TAG for yourself to help with lighting up the ECM mechs in the field that hide from your LRMS.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:08 PM

View PostJC Daxion, on 29 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

I think i will go with the A1.. I really love missiles, and to me a Cat says missiles!

A side question though, Once you buy a module, can you swap them from mech to mech or are they like the other upgrades as in endo steel, where it is one mech only?

I WIN! \o/

Modules swap... which is great unless you are Koniving and you can't remember which of your 61 mechs you left your modules in :)





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