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#21 Hagetaka

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:34 PM

4chan memes seem just about the FedSuns education level

#22 Harabec Weathers

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:35 PM

I dunno, even 4chan can read (just not very well). Most Davion Citizens can't even claim that.

#23 Arthinas

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:53 PM

4chan is obviously what happens on former Capellan worlds stolen by Davions. They can still read (being former Capellans and all), but being ruled by Davions ends up watering down their thoughts just a little too much

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:07 PM

View Postrilianv, on 11 June 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

picard wouldnt pilot a mech. he would have a cruiser that he hijacked from comstar and would blow all you cappies to hell with it


*Watches Fedsuns flail uselessly*

Make it so

Edited by PicardDay, 11 June 2012 - 09:08 PM.


#25 rilianv

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:15 PM

View PostGearBoxClock, on 11 June 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:


I was asking about Luke from Star Trek, not that Jedu guy. Geez man.



I dont want to live on this planet anymore.
thats 3 things of blasphemy in 1 statement.


If the Fed Suns are so illiterate, then why are they the most technologically advanced realm in the inner sphere. the only thing the cappies had on the feds was their use of electronic countermeasure systems

Edited by rilianv, 11 June 2012 - 09:18 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:22 PM

Because they are a badly written Mary-sue faction that are the pet of a blatantly monarchist writer.

#27 PicardDay

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:24 PM

View Postrilianv, on 11 June 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:



I dont want to live on this planet anymore.
thats 3 things of blasphemy in 1 statement.


If the Fed Suns are so illiterate, then why are they the most technologically advanced realm in the inner sphere. the only thing the cappies had on the feds was their use of electronic countermeasure systems



Well you see, almost all of the wealth of the Federated Suns is directly tied into funding the Military Industrial Complex. While House Davion pours extraordinary amounts of C-Bills into NAIS and other manufacturing/researcher groups, those funds come directly from the place which other states would normally use to build schools, public hospitals and other necessary civilian infrastructure. Which is why someone lucky enough to live on New Avalon is rich and has a Hovercar, while the dirt farmer less then a jump away is lucky to own a donkey and still have half his teeth. Naturally, as he lives in a society that does not believe in material wealth or runaway MIC complexes, Captain Picard does not approve.

#28 rilianv

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:27 PM

you cappies are just jealous cause no matter who the writer was, ya'll still came out as the bad guys and you'll always be considered the bad guys

#29 PicardDay

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:29 PM

View Postrilianv, on 11 June 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

you cappies are just jealous cause no matter who the writer was, ya'll still came out as the bad guys and you'll always be considered the bad guys



Wow, I have to admit when Caleb Davion violently raped Danai-Centrella Liao I always assumed he was a bad guy... mind officially blown.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:29 PM

View Postrilianv, on 11 June 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:



I dont want to live on this planet anymore.
thats 3 things of blasphemy in 1 statement.


If the Fed Suns are so illiterate, then why are they the most technologically advanced realm in the inner sphere. the only thing the cappies had on the feds was their use of electronic countermeasure systems

Because the scientists were imported or were educated on one of the few non-crapsack core worlds like New Avalon

Edited by Harabec Weathers, 11 June 2012 - 09:31 PM.


#31 rilianv

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:32 PM

View PostPicardDay, on 11 June 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:



Wow, I have to admit when Caleb Davion violently raped Danai-Centrella Liao I always assumed he was a bad guy... mind officially blown.


we dont claim caleb davion. he was secretly adopted from a cappie orphanage

#32 Evinthal

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:33 PM

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#33 rilianv

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:40 PM

dont you have some pointless political officer charge to be attending to

#34 PicardDay

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:43 PM

View Postrilianv, on 11 June 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:


we dont claim caleb davion. he was secretly adopted from a cappie orphanage


Next on Maury - Rim Worlds Republic heir claims "Stefan Amaris - Not my real dad!"

But seriously, how does it feel to have the modern face of your nation be a schizophrenic rapist who literally cannot even pilot a mech? I mean, at least he wasn't as bad as Victor who single handedly destroyed all the careful work of Hanse and drove the Fedsuns face first into the ground and killed millions to billions over a succession spat with his sister, but you know, kids will be kids.

#35 rilianv

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:48 PM

actually katherine ruined the union when she pulled the Lyran Alliance out. and the civil war started long before victor ever got involved. victor just provided a symbol for people to fall behind.

and Sun Tzu Liao started a civil war of his own and also caused the death of millions over a spat with his aunt and cousins.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:57 PM

Have to love that when the authors finally make a Davion a bad guy rapist, they even still give him the built-in excuse of being a paranoid schizophrenic ;)

#37 PicardDay

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:07 PM

View Postrilianv, on 11 June 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

actually katherine ruined the union when she pulled the Lyran Alliance out. and the civil war started long before victor ever got involved. victor just provided a symbol for people to fall behind.

and Sun Tzu Liao started a civil war of his own and also caused the death of millions over a spat with his aunt and cousins.


Funny you should mention that, considering Katherine, while not perhaps the greatest leader, was probably the one child of Hanse and Melissa that actually had the political know how to stop the deathspiral of either state. Of course, After not concerning himself with the wellbeing of Fedcom citizens for his entire tenure as First Prince, the second he is out of the job it's time to be a "People's Champion." (funny story, the devastation caused by the FedCom civil war would lead to the dissolution of the second Star League which was the direct cause of the Jihad. So in practical terms that is Victors fault too.)

EDIT: Also, Katherine seperating the Fedcom was probably the smartest thing she could do. The states didn't exist as full allies or partners, but in fact the Lyrans had simply attained the status of extra cannon fodder for the AFFS with the bonus of a huge piggybank to be earmarked for the MIC (instead of real Lyran concerns that were the things actaully keeping them wealthy.)

Also funny how you place the blame on Sun-Tzu for the Capellan/St. Ives war. Despite the fact that by the time the war occurred, popular support in the St. Ives Compact was behind re-integration to the Capellan Confederation, but Candace was so attached to her role as an "Independent Ruler" (That means Davion Puppet, by the way) that she made sure her military was radicalized and in and of themselves anti-Capellan. So what could have been a bloodless process based on a populist movement instead became a meatgrinder, costing all those lives in the name of "St. Ives Independence" (In reality, so Candace could keep her Duchal Title with her Davion BFF's, who cares about all those stinky peasants?)

Edited by PicardDay, 11 June 2012 - 10:10 PM.


#38 Lt muffins

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:30 PM

Ladies, Ladies, Ladies.

You are both beautiful.

Can we get along plz

#39 Evinthal

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:18 PM

View PostPicardDay, on 11 June 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:


Funny you should mention that, considering Katherine, while not perhaps the greatest leader, was probably the one child of Hanse and Melissa that actually had the political know how to stop the deathspiral of either state. Of course, After not concerning himself with the wellbeing of Fedcom citizens for his entire tenure as First Prince, the second he is out of the job it's time to be a "People's Champion." (funny story, the devastation caused by the FedCom civil war would lead to the dissolution of the second Star League which was the direct cause of the Jihad. So in practical terms that is Victors fault too.)

EDIT: Also, Katherine seperating the Fedcom was probably the smartest thing she could do. The states didn't exist as full allies or partners, but in fact the Lyrans had simply attained the status of extra cannon fodder for the AFFS with the bonus of a huge piggybank to be earmarked for the MIC (instead of real Lyran concerns that were the things actaully keeping them wealthy.)

Also funny how you place the blame on Sun-Tzu for the Capellan/St. Ives war. Despite the fact that by the time the war occurred, popular support in the St. Ives Compact was behind re-integration to the Capellan Confederation, but Candace was so attached to her role as an "Independent Ruler" (That means Davion Puppet, by the way) that she made sure her military was radicalized and in and of themselves anti-Capellan. So what could have been a bloodless process based on a populist movement instead became a meatgrinder, costing all those lives in the name of "St. Ives Independence" (In reality, so Candace could keep her Duchal Title with her Davion BFF's, who cares about all those stinky peasants?)


Whoa, wait. Someone else who sees the FedCom civil war as a cause of the Jihad? And a Cappie at that too. Maybe you all aren't that bad.

I have to agree though. House Davion is the little pet faction of the universe and have that paragon of ideals/good guy image (even if it is forced at times). I would like to thank them however for at least giving the LAAF a taste of having a better military organization. Too bad that collapsed after Katrina pulled out of the alliance, and we went back to having more social-generals.

#40 Arthinas

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:48 AM

View PostEvinthal, on 11 June 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:


Whoa, wait. Someone else who sees the FedCom civil war as a cause of the Jihad? And a Cappie at that too. Maybe you all aren't that bad.

I have to agree though. House Davion is the little pet faction of the universe and have that paragon of ideals/good guy image (even if it is forced at times). I would like to thank them however for at least giving the LAAF a taste of having a better military organization. Too bad that collapsed after Katrina pulled out of the alliance, and we went back to having more social-generals.


On the other hand, you guys get Thomas Hogarth, so social generals can't be ALL bad.





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