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[Goose]

I keep meeting people in TS3 with some mystery-meat system, looking for addvice. I "know" I can tell them "less then a triple-core (duel with hyperthreading) is iffy," but what about video cards? The examples in our "docs" list stuff long EOL.

Mostly, I want to know if I can tell them "GTX 650 Ti /w 1GB," or "GTX 650 Ti BOOST w/ 2GB", or something in-between.

Edited by Goose, 05 August 2013 - 09:00 PM.

[Gremlich Johns]

I had a GTX460 SE that worked pretty well at Medium settings. Look how many generations ago that is. I now have a GTX760.

look at GPU reviews for one source to compare video cards. Here too at Guru3D

[LennStar]

What resolution? My own experience:
For the smallest 1200x768 a NVIDIA 440 ist playable (mostly low settings), the same is for an AMD A10-APU (mix of low and medium).
With the A10 "medium" works at some maps with only red fps (less then 20) in a brawl when lots of lasers/missile (where you need the fps the most ), others are always uncomfortable (2X fps).
At only low settings the A10 makes ~40fps. and never goes red fps.

For Full HD with medium I guess a NVidia 660Ti is minimum.

Edited by LennStar, 04 August 2013 - 11:21 AM.

[PanzerFurrry]

MWO runs at about ~30 FPS on low/medium 1680x1050 on Radeon 5670 1GB and that was ~90€ card when it came out years ago. So any AMD card in 6xxx range or even 7xxx should be able to run MWO decently (with an exception of x4xx and x3xx cards. R5670 has about the same performance as modern AMD APUs (A10).

This is of course for ~minimum graphic settings, for medium+AA+post processing, requirements are way higher.

EDIT: $->€ to be exact.

Edited by PanzerFurrry, 04 August 2013 - 01:19 PM.

[ICUBurn]

a 660 ti is what i have and im running everything maxed at 60-70 fps at 1080. i believe the bare minimum for decent would be a 650 ti or a 7770.

[Catamount]

Goose, on 04 August 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

I keep meeting people in TS3 with some mystery-meat system, looking for addvice. I "know" I can them less then a triple-core (duel with hyperthreading) is iffy, but what about video cards? The exmaples in our "docs" list stuff long EOL.

Mostly, I want to know if I can tell them "GTX 650 Ti /w 1GB," or "GTX 650 Ti BOOST w/ 2GB", or something in-between.

For mobile, the bare minimum for playability at any settings or resolution is somewhere around a Mobility Radeon HD 5700/6600M/7500M series GPU on AMD's side or the GT 435M/540M/620M on Nvidia's side. That means that on the desktop side you're looking at about a Radeon HD 5570/6570/7510 on AMD's side and maybe a GT440/530/620 on Nvidia's side.

That's based on observing several machines running the game on minimum settings that barely scraped by.\ being playable (20s and occasionally down to teens for fps)

[ReissTC]

Have played the game on an nVidia GT 630M (the laptop version of the GT 630). While not "smooth", it was playable at lowest settings. Can't give numbers, though.

[RobinSage]

The Practical minimum video card is stated by PGI. The RECOMMENDED system requirements are usually the low baseline to play the game.

I know everyone is going to state the obvious that minimum requirements are one thing and recommended is another. As a PC gamer for decades, if you don't keep up, the games pass you by. The minimum specs for this game are actually what is keeping players playing this game. I think the entire MWO community should upgrade. My vid cards are over 2 1/2 years old. I play with all settings maxed, 60fps. You can find 2x HD6970's for about $600 or cheaper. That's about what you want. Max settings at 60fps or if you don't care about graphics and you just want to play the game with practicality and minimum investment in the most important piece of your computer, then go with something cheaper.

You'll get what you pay for guaranteed. Always stick to Recommended or better. If you don't reach the recommended system requirements, then it's time for an upgrade.

By the way, ATI, NVIDIA doesn't make a difference. Games don't work better on different cards. I would advise ALL mechwarriors to download the latest verson of MSI Afterburner. Download their stock drivers, either NVIDIA or ATI. Uninstall all ATI and NVIDIA software packages (they are crap) and install fresh DRIVERS ONLY***** Then install MSI Afterburner to drive your cards.

Disable ULPS in your registry. And tada. Better framerates. Enjoy.

[RobinSage]

Goose, on 04 August 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

I keep meeting people in TS3 with some mystery-meat system, looking for addvice. I "know" I can them less then a triple-core (duel with hyperthreading) is iffy, but what about video cards? The exmaples in our "docs" list stuff long EOL.

Mostly, I want to know if I can tell them "GTX 650 Ti /w 1GB," or "GTX 650 Ti BOOST w/ 2GB", or something in-between.

Nothing in-between Goose. The 2GB card isn't much better than the 1GB card. I would recommend going bigger than either of these two for this game or ANY game in the future for that matter.

[Ridersofdoom]

i have a Radeon HD 4830 512M and AMD Phenon II x4 working 24 hrs full HD.

[Farix]

Goose, on 04 August 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

I keep meeting people in TS3 with some mystery-meat system, looking for addvice. I "know" I can them less then a triple-core (duel with hyperthreading) is iffy, but what about video cards? The exmaples in our "docs" list stuff long EOL.

Mostly, I want to know if I can tell them "GTX 650 Ti /w 1GB," or "GTX 650 Ti BOOST w/ 2GB", or something in-between.

I currently run the game on an i5-2500K with 8G of memory and a Radeon HD 6750 graphics card with low settings. Because of my PSU, I am not able to over clock anything. I tend to get about 25-30 FPS at a resolution of 1680x1050. However, I would not necessarily recommend the Radeon HD 6750 for MWO even if it is playable. If I dropped the resolution to 1440×900, I may get better performance at a higher graphics setting, but I don't feel like experimenting.

[Mech Wrench]

Core i5 and a 6870 run 1080p max settings 40-50 fps

[Dragoon20005]

well this is IMO the system requirements for the game to be playable at least 30fps

but you system need to be at least quad core either on both desktop and laptops running at 2.4GHz min

8GB ram is what you should be running any lesser your loading is very slow

graphics using 720p as a guide

you could use Catamount's guide

For mobile, the bare minimum for playability at any settings or resolution is somewhere around a Mobility Radeon HD 5700/6600M/7500M series GPU on AMD's side or the GT 435M/540M/620M on Nvidia's side.
That means that on the desktop side you're looking at about a Radeon HD 5570/6570/7510 on AMD's side and maybe a GT440/530/620 on Nvidia's side.


but like he mentioned, the above GPU barely lets you play at decent framerate,

That's based on observing several machines running the game on minimum settings that barely scraped by.\ being playable (20s and occasionally down to teens for fps)

IMO look for at least for Mobility Radeon HD7670M, HD8730 or HD8750 or HD8770 or HD8790 for AMD side

http://www.amd.com/u...700-8800.aspx#2

now for Geforce Side only GT650M, GT750M and above are considered decent GPU, if you could find a GTX series Geforce it should be on the top of the list but look at the price first

for desktop ver, AMD series look for at least HD7750 or HD7770 with 1GB GDDR5 these cards are value for money and you still get good performance.

Geforce look for GTX650 series but if there are bargains for GTX660 or GTX760, grab them.

but it still boils down to budget and what res you intent to play at

720P is the 2nd most common res played after 1080P but the latter is for really powerful PCs

[Rhodes]

I'm rocking a GTX 560 Ti with 2gb. No problems, If i overclock it a bit, i can run full settings. I also have a Intel i7 though.

Correction: I'm running full "very high" setting without overclocking my 560 Ti. I have an intel i7 5770-k and 8gb of RAM. The 560 has 2gb of RAM and I'm playing on a 40" LCD with full 1080. No frame rate issues, whatsoever.

Edited by Rhodes, 04 August 2013 - 06:01 PM.

[Dragoon20005]

GTX560Ti is a great card and if you do find it on ebay or any other website

do consider but check the condition of the card before making the payment

[StainlessSR]

My system which is no great powerhouse but plays well,

I3 2100
hd6770 1g GDDR5
8g ram
1440 x 900
Fairly solid 30fps avg dips to 18 in a total furball (8+ mechs in close range brawl)
everything high except:
Enviroment = low
Anti-Aliasing = PostAA

Unfortunately, what card you recommend will vary upon several factors. What cpu is being used, how much system memory is installed, what is the budget, what is the target resolution that they are looking for, how tech savy is the person (can they or will they be willing to use a custom user.cfg) And last but not least, what you may consider decent or good fps may not be what others consider decent or good.

A great CPU can somewhat make up for a lesser GPU in still giving decent fps.

Unfortunately, even a titan will not help a weak CPU give decent fps as MWO is heavily CPU dependent.

Less than 4Gb memory won't work well (if at all), 6-8 with a 64bit OS is really needed but 4Gb on a 32bit OS can scrape by usually.

Most importantly, how much can they spend, telling someone with a budget of $150 to get a dual titan does nothing to help that person, also you have to realize that quite a few players are not in the United States and may not have access to the same range of products at the same cost as US consumers would.

The higher the resolution (that you want to run the game at), the more exponentially the stress on the computer (CPU/GPU), lower resolutions can get away with higher settings on the same equipment.(Blatently copy/pasted from here [post #4] since the poster had it so right)

Spoiler

it can be quantified numerically, actually.
1080: 1920 x1080 = 2073600
720: 1280 x 720 = 921600
480: 852 x 480 = 408960
As you can see, 720p is roughly 2.25 times the pixel count of 480p, whereas 1080p is roughly 2.25 times the pixel count of 720p. That means that you're looking at effectively the same jump in resolution from 720p ->1080p as you are from 480p -> 720p. That's a HUGE leap in terms of the amount of detail a program has to render. A good example would be take a game running on your PC, set the resolution to 1280x720 and record a demo with a fps counter running, then run the same demo back at 1920x1080 and look at the fps. I guarantee you will see a huge drop in performance.

You can use the user.cfg to change several variables that are not changeable in the group sliders offered in the options menu. This may allow a sub-par system to give decent performance at a given resolution but it requires testing of each changed variable to see if it actually helps or hinders average/min fps. A long process and not for the non tech savy as there really isn't any one size fixes all.

[1Sascha]

I'm running a Gigabyte GTX460 (slightly OCed to 715 MHz as stock, haven't OCed it any further currently, but I could) with 1 GB of DDR5 in it. 1920x1080 set to mostly "high" settings. Except Effects, Particles, Environment and AA, which are set to maximum.

Getting pretty steady 40 FPS with that. Except for when I turn on thermal, which will sometimes degrade my FPS over time until they drop to about 10. Switching thermal off will return FPS to around 40. Weird.

Oh yeah: My system isn't exactly cutting edge, either: Vista 64, Intel Core2Quad 9300 (OCed from 2.5 to 2.74) on an Asus P5Q-E with 4 GB of OCZ DDR2.

Overall, I'm pretty amazed that this game runs as smoothly and pretty as it does on my rig.


S.

Edited by 1Sascha, 05 August 2013 - 02:53 AM.

[Tarl Cabot]

What would you be happy with?

If it is running 30 FPS, expect that to drop as CW revs up and more mechs and features are added.

If it is running 60+ FPS (Window/Full Windowed mode locks it at 60FPS if game runs higher than 60 FPS), more if running Full Screen mode. A few players are running in Full Windowed mode to prevent game from taxing system.

Intel i5 3570k 3.4 oc 4.2 / 8gigs memory / ATI 7950 3 gigs Full Screen FPS hops between 90 to 150 FPS, though I generally run in Full Windowed mode

[Gevurah]

I get 30-40 fps w/ triple core + galaxy gtx460 (768mb) on medium. The galaxy gtx460 is a nice card for a number of reasons:

1 - it's cheap as dirt. I got mine on sale as a refurb for like 80 dollars even.
2 - It's reasonably potent. Not the best card, but for the money, it's as good as you'll get.
3 - it takes to overclocking like a champ. Something about this card is MADE for overclocking.
example: It's not uncommon to do what I've done, which is increase the clock speed from 650 to 900 mhz(!) at a meager
10 degree cost in heat.

On overclocking said card(s): http://www.bit-tech....geforce-gtx-460

[Gremlich Johns]

LennStar, on 04 August 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

What resolution? My own experience:
For the smallest 1200x768 a NVIDIA 440 ist playable (mostly low settings), the same is for an AMD A10-APU (mix of low and medium).
With the A10 "medium" works at some maps with only red fps (less then 20) in a brawl when lots of lasers/missile (where you need the fps the most ), others are always uncomfortable (2X fps).
At only low settings the A10 makes ~40fps. and never goes red fps.

For Full HD with medium I guess a NVidia 660Ti is minimum.

1920x1080p on two monitors

I was running a slightly OC'd GTX 560 ti fermi SC on the same monitor rig at high settings getting 40-55 FPS.

You guys know you can crossfire I believe an HD 7750 series with those A10 APUs, something to do later. here's a video