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[Kung Poo]

I dont think any mech released so far has come even close to as terrible as this mech. Dont buy if your thinking about it.

[Tombstoner]

Abuse, on 21 May 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

I dont think any mech released so far has come even close to as terrible as this mech. Dont buy if your thinking about it.

why.... expand please

[Sturmforge]

Because they are not able to play that chassis it must be no good.

[1453 R]

I present evidence to the contrary.

Eight medium lasers moving at 116 top speed with 41% cooling efficiency - and it's cheap as hell for anyone who's already got a maxed-out engine in their RVN-3L. I seem to recall some noise from the Olde Types around here...something along the lines of a 118-kph HBK-4P that used to be the terror of the playground?

Sure, the BJ-1X has to use an XL engine to do it...but it's still eight medium lasers moving at 116kph with nineteen DHS' worth of cooling on top of its efficiencies. Go ahead and tell me that such a machine is an epic fail, good sir. I dare yaz.

[One Medic Army]

Because it has low armor, low speed, and can't carry enough weaponry to be a real threat.

Except for the one variant that's got 8 energy hardpoints, a decent engine size limit, and only 80 degrees of torso twist (with no arm twist).

[jeffsw6]

The lack of arm articulation is why the BlackJack sucks. It is trash because you must aim your torso at the opponent to apply any damage, and your BJ's CT has all of 56 armor to be shared by front and rear.

You can pretty much know whether you are going to win or lose a PUG match right now based on how many (lose) or few (win) BlackJacks are on your team.

[Ryebear]

It admittedly feels very sluggish and unresponsive compared to similar weight chassis (Trebuchet) and similar styled chassis (Jagermech).

It carries deceptively high fire power for its weight though (as in when piloting it, I feel underpowered but the scoreboard says otherwise).

All of these *feelings* make me *feel* underwhelmed. Lets see if my opinions stand when I have all basic efficiencies unlocked though. It's cheap enough that I can invest in a couple variants without breaking the bank though. It's engine caps are at awkward levels though, buying a 200xl (the weight sweet spot) or 235xl (max engine for most variants) are really annoying since I can't use the engines to great effect with any other mechs. And I never bothered with a 295xl for my Raven 3L since the 280 and 300 are my workhorse engines I base most mechs around.

[Deathlike]

The BJ seems fine.. I'm using the 1X with a STD 275 (the same used for the Cent) and it's doing just fine.

[Inflatable Fish]

As posted in another thread:

I gave 1X a run, with 6 ML, 2 SL an STD 295 engine, DHS, endo, and maxed FF armour.

The amount of fail in this mech is astounding. Even with max armour, my CT got cored almost instantly. The 106 base kph is nice, but it doesn't make up for the fact you still have to close in for your lazors to do any reasonable damage. And speaking of lazors, the arms moving only in the Y axis are a death sentence against anything that moves at close to your speed and above.

So I just p. much wasted some 6 mil cbills on a complete crap mech.

[JackPoint]

I've elite'd the 3x the DC and the 1x, and honestly they are so bad even my Cent -A performs better, dps wise and effiency wise and armour wise. Do what I did sell them like you stole it.

[Khobai]

Blackjack is way too slow. Why is it so slow? 235 max engine really?

Its got less hardpoints and less tonnage than a Hunchback. Shouldnt it go faster than a Hunchback?

[JSparrowist]

My 93 kph, 4xLL 1X says hello.

[80Bit]

All I am hearing here is "The Blackjack sucks because it does not fit my playstyle"

[oldradagast]

Well, at least they are scaled about the right size - I was fully expecting another medium mech that is somehow about as large as 80+ ton assault mechs.

[Ph30nix]

1453 R, on 21 May 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

I present evidence to the contrary.

Eight medium lasers moving at 116 top speed with 41% cooling efficiency - and it's cheap as hell for anyone who's already got a maxed-out engine in their RVN-3L. I seem to recall some noise from the Olde Types around here...something along the lines of a 118-kph HBK-4P that used to be the terror of the playground?

Sure, the BJ-1X has to use an XL engine to do it...but it's still eight medium lasers moving at 116kph with nineteen DHS' worth of cooling on top of its efficiencies. Go ahead and tell me that such a machine is an epic fail, good sir. I dare yaz.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified

hmmm me thinks that mech is better, 10 less alpha damage but
40kph faster
only 40 less armor
has JJ as well
harder to hit

the Blackjacks could have been great mechs if

they were 50 tonners
all had 295 max engine rating possible

right now they are either too damn slow for their size (problem with the 1x its too easy to plaster it across the map)
or they dont have the tonnage to use those ballaistic hard points to any viable degree except a pair of ac2, and still have enough ammo and back up weapons to do anything

i mean for christ sake the bulk of them are barely faster then their big brother the Jager, which to get to speeds FASTER then the jager they can barely take any weapons.... even with FF and endo steal....

im really trying ot like this little guy and i will probably dedicate some time to him because for some reason i like the hard to use mechs and such but im really regrettin dropping the 15mil C-bills on these things today.

[badaa]

the only thing i dont like about the black jack so far is the ppc cannon barrels they look awful they need to make barrels for each type of weapon

Edited by badaa, 21 May 2013 - 05:35 PM.

[TygerLily]

I like it!

[LordBraxton]

The 1x is good.

the rest are garbage

[Sephlock]

LordBraxton, on 21 May 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

The 1x is good.

the rest are garbage

So is that the consensus? Its the sense that I'm getting...

[Zakie Chan]

One Medic Army, on 21 May 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

Because it has low armor, low speed, and can't carry enough weaponry to be a real threat.

Except for the one variant that's got 8 energy hardpoints, a decent engine size limit, and only 80 degrees of torso twist (with no arm twist).

Welcome to the world of mediums. Where every mech is better, but other pilots are inferior