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[Deathlike]

Sprouticus, on 06 August 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

That's how I thought it worked. The wording on that is odd.


So a PPC hit that crits does an additional 1.5 dmg to internals.

An Ac20 round that crits will do 3 extra dmg.

A lbx pellet that crits does 0.15, 0.3 (14% chance),0.6(8% chance), or 0.9(2% chance) dmg. Looking at the averages, you get roughly 0.3 dmg per pellet on average. If by some chance you hit and crit with all 10 pellets, you would do 3 extra damage (the same as an AC20)

a very small buff, and nothing to worry about from a balance standpoint.

LBX pellets have additional crit properties. 1 pellet can do 2, 4 or even 6 pts of additional crit damage (which means .3, .6, and .9 internal damage). Same goes for MGs PER BULLET... 1 bullet can do 1.25 crit damage, 2.5, or 3.75.. which means an additional .1875, .375, and.5625 internal damage respectively).

This is a lot more serious than you think.

In any case, it just accelerates the PPC/Gauss meta... and AC20s.

Rat of the Legion Vega, on 06 August 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

They had a fix for the 3D's dominance for a couple weeks with the heavy reticule shake, until a bunch of people pretended to get motion sick so they could get their favourite poptarts back. And PGI actually believed them and reduced the shake.

This is real, unless you believe everyone is lying.

[Punkarelli]

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CB rewards have been adjusted to compensate for the additional 4 players on the battlefield.

Adjusted up or down? I'm gonna assume down because ya know, you cant have people earning more for shooting more mechs.. that would be insanity...

[VerusZetec]

Wales Grey, on 06 August 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

1. LOL
2. LOL
3. So if everyone has to deal with the #idiotheatwankery then clearly it's balanced! Externalities cannot affect markets!

Nice substitute for an actual point. I'm sorry to hear that your preferred playstyle (read: alphaspammery) is no longer a viable option. I feel just oh-so-bad for you, seeing you whine all over this thread.

How about leaving some room for the more productive commentary?

[Chronojam]

VerusZetec, on 06 August 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

Nice substitute for an actual point. I'm sorry to hear that your preferred playstyle (read: alphaspammery) is no longer a viable option. I feel just oh-so-bad for you, seeing you whine all over this thread.

How about leaving some room for the more productive commentary?

I, for one, won't be satisfied until every mech that's not fitting at least one Gauss Rifle and one PPC simply auto-ejects the pilot at the start of the ground. I was a bit concerned that the recent changes to SRMs would make up for back when PGI removed their splash damage, but these new changes to make SRM4s and SRM6s stack a heat penalty look promising.

Not quite sure on the UAC/5s, though. They might still do enough damage to be relevant even if you are forced to look straight-on at your target the entire time. We need to put a nail in that coffin asap.

[VagGR]

good patch...

i really hope the extra PPC heat will improve things

[KingCobra]

Im just going to say this straight up (Base capture in assault mode is ccrraap) 7 out of 8 games all the other team did was rush to capture our base assault mode is for fighting. So PGI please delete the base capture in assault mode it truly suckssss.

[Ridersofdoom]

i found the game, with this patch, fun again.

Edited by Ridersofdoom, 06 August 2013 - 11:50 AM.

[LONGINUS]

The new weapon effects for low or mid performace systems are crap:

-ppc fire looks like energy sperms

-lrm have no trails anymore

-ballistic bullets are now tiny points

[Simbacca]

The 12vs12 on the smaller maps is playing murder with my FPS. With 8vs8 I averaged 16 FPS in City for example. With the changes my 10 FPS.

Also my peeve with the Large Pulse Lasers - they still run too hot. I would be fine changing them back to 10 damage, and 7.3 heat. Or 10.5 damage with 7.5 heat.

[Gwaihir]

LONGINUS, on 06 August 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

The new weapon effects for low or mid performace systems are crap:

-ppc fire looks like energy sperms

-lrm have no trails anymore

-ballistic bullets are now tiny points

What do you expect? They're supposed to look like crap so your video card doesn't have to work as hard to get a playable FPS level.

[Airborne Thunder]

racal, on 06 August 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

Seriously, Daily Rewards?!?!?!???

Can we not keep the crap from every common mmorpg out of this game...

******* IGP piece of **** publishers leave this game alone.

World of Tanks called and they want their entire Free-to-play model back. Next they are going to give us 3x XP on special events and 5x XP on holidays!

[Airborne Thunder]

LONGINUS, on 06 August 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

The new weapon effects for low or mid performace systems are crap:

-ppc fire looks like energy sperms

-lrm have no trails anymore

-ballistic bullets are now tiny points

Yeah, I have to actually increase my graphics settings to get the same results as I used to which decreases my performance. How is that an improvement?

[Tezcatli]

Airborne Thunder, on 06 August 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

World of Tanks called and they want their entire Free-to-play model back. Next they are going to give us 3x XP on special events and 5x XP on holidays!

They also give an IP bonus for the first win of the day in League of Legends. You wanna go on their forums and ask them to give it back too? : o

[Rabcor]

Dunno man, I liked the 8v8, less players mean shorter matches, completely removing 8v8 was kindof a silly move in my opinion because some maps are really just too smal for 24 players the way i see it.

You should rather put 8v8 game mode with only the small maps and medium sized ones, and a 12v12 with the big maps and the medium sized ones.

I don't want to play Terra Therma at all, and this is not something more players will fix. maybe making it a unique Free For All map or 3v3/4v4 map would work, dividing starting positions (half team starts in one corner of the map and the other half the other corner, meaning less walking distance) but even that wouldn't be enough, because there are so many collision bugs on that map. I encounter invisible walls all the time, sometimes i get stuck in an invisible box even. and i've seen more people get stuck in it.

TERRA THERMA IS NOT READY YET!

so please remove it from the game until it is actually playable. The heat is enough of a restriction, the mountains blocking our path and making us walk for 5 minutes before we encounter any enemy is just way too much when we know the combat is gonna suck anyways because of overheating.

It doesn't help anyone to have a map that 80% of the playerbase or more hates. I know you love a map you worked hard to make but face the fact that the damned thing isn't ready to be used yet. Just please put the map's intergration on hold.

As for first win of the day, it should not apply to trials and it should give both extra CB and XP. why? Xp is worthless to us, it takes us a few games to research all of the basic tree, and we can't get to elite and master unless we have a lot of spare slots and a lot more of spare CB. Thanks for double XP for 1 game but no thanks, that stuff is uselss unless i intend to convert it to GXP for MC. I don't intend to do that.

I also think players should get bonus CB and Exp for surviving a match.

Edited by Rabcor, 06 August 2013 - 02:59 PM.

[Snake3y3s]

something was also done to the Gauss rifle... but its not mentioned

[Bloodweaver]

Gwaihir, on 06 August 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

What do you expect? They're supposed to look like crap so your video card doesn't have to work as hard to get a playable FPS level.

Yes, but the problem is that it doesn't actually fix the problem. My FPS bounces around from 8 to 14 on the worst maps(Frozen City, River City, Terra Therma). I never had a fantastic framerate, but it was definitely more than adequate in the past. And I've always played on the low settings.

Unless this problem is actually resolved, I have no reason to continue playing. I used to regularly get 500+ damage and 2 or more kills fairly often. Now I'm actually lucky if I snag ONE kill, and I don't think I've gotten over 200 damage in a single match yet. I've always preferred brawler and striker builds - these may no no longer be options, unfortunately. Half the time I can't even tell what I'm aiming at...

[Rabcor]

Snake3y3s, on 06 August 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

something was also done to the Gauss rifle... but its not mentioned

which is? looks the same to me unless they buffed its range...

The ppc heat nerf was totally uncalled for btw. they only deal 10 dmg per shot, the LRG pulse laser deals more damage for less heat, just less range.

[Bloodweaver]

^lol

[Chronojam]

Rabcor, on 06 August 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

which is? looks the same to me unless they buffed its range...

The ppc heat nerf was totally uncalled for btw. they only deal 10 dmg per shot, the LRG pulse laser deals more damage for less heat, just less range.

Why is that uncalled for? PPC/ERPPC do negligibly less damage at nearly 2x/3x the range, meaning you can begin attacking much sooner than somebody using a large pulse laser -- without the need to even bother keeping your cursor over the target the whole time. You can also use them to break ECM to allow for locks or indirect LRM fire. Please explain yourself.

[Flak Kannon]

The feel of 12v12 is off.

I for one do not like it as the 'only' playable option.

I would play 12v12 from time to time, but would play 8v8 75% of the time if given the choice.

I will not buy any more PGI MC until they add that option, 8v8 and 12v12.

Been playing since January, and if they care to check, they can see how much MC I have bought, no more from this customer.

I would be nice if they cared about their paying customer base. We'll see.