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[Wolfways]

I have experience of 2xXP from WoT and it ruins some matches. Players start to think that the 2xXP matches are the most important and for some reason can't grasp the fact that it just equals two winning matches (so they shouldn't actually matter unless you can only play one match per mech a day).

This has two effects:

1) Players remember losing streaks more than winning streaks, and losing 2xXP matches just makes these streaks stand out even more, and some players feel that they are losing a lot more and complain about "balance" more on the forums.

2) Sometimes players feel that they haven't done enough to get a high XP reward and so if their team is winning they want their team to lose and try to help the enemy by rushing to the enemy to suicide, maybe even "accidentally" shooting their teammates on the way.

I know it sounds pathetic but i know there were quite a few players in WoT who did that.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

If the first win bonus were a flat amount, say 100,000 c-bills and 1,000 XP, would that fix things do you think?

[Wolfways]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 06 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

If the first win bonus were a flat amount, say 100,000 c-bills and 1,000 XP, would that fix things do you think?

Why does there need to be any bonus?

[Mackman]

Wolfways, on 06 August 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Why does there need to be any bonus?

It provides an incentive for people to log in an play at least 1 game every day: People who otherwise might not play for several days on end. And if you''re already logged on, hey, why not play a few more...

League of Legends has a similar system, and I have friends who just log on for that some days. It's a smart move by PGI.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Wolfways, on 06 August 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Why does there need to be any bonus?

In a good many F2P games having a first win bonus has been a successful way to get players to play at least once each day. This keeps players active, which is good for everyone, and accelerates their ability to spend in-game currency (since they earn it that much faster), which builds their personal investment in the game.

For instance, League of Legends offers a pretty significant IP reward for your first win each 20ish hours, which I know for a fact influences players to play more often than they otherwise would.

Edited by Levi Porphyrogenitus, 06 August 2013 - 08:20 PM.

[Wolfways]

Well..i guess i just don't understand people like that (or any people for that matter )
2xXP means nothing to me and in no way encourages me play when i don't want to. I just hope people don't start screwing over their team for what, imo, is nothing.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Wolfways, on 06 August 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

Well..i guess i just don't understand people like that (or any people for that matter )
2xXP means nothing to me and in no way encourages me play when i don't want to. I just hope people don't start screwing over their team for what, imo, is nothing.

Which is why I'm suggesting it change to 100k c-bills and 1k xp flat, and only on a win. It'd be better for newer or less skilled players and worse for very skilled players.

[Dirty Starfish]

2x CB for the first win would be much better IMO

Edited by Serial Peacemaker, 06 August 2013 - 09:01 PM.

[Deathlike]

It won't happen IMO.

They want you to either buy hero mechs and/or premium time and/or convert your excess mech XP to GXP... using MC.

[Hisashi No Oni]

OMG! What the hell are you whimpering about? More in game rewards? Really? "By all means make them stop giving us stuff"

[Riptor]

Its news to me that anyone thought the XP gain was to slow in this game... i dont mind the bonus but...

XP bonus? Yayyyy?

Really a non issue...

[El Bandito]

They really should offer double C-Bill

Serial Peacemaker, on 06 August 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

2x CB for the first win would be much better IMO

Especially considering the fact the C-Bill rework for 12 v 12 was straight up nerf in disguise.

[Vaktor]

Double XP doesn't matter really anyway... I have so much XP I have no idea what to do with it all. Now if it was double CB then maybe that would be a problem.

[Ph30nix]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 06 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

If the first win bonus were a flat amount, say 100,000 c-bills and 1,000 XP, would that fix things do you think?

if they gave a 100k cbill a win bonus i think id play all 37 of my mechs everyday.

[Sprouticus]

Wolfways, on 06 August 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

Well..i guess i just don't understand people like that (or any people for that matter )
2xXP means nothing to me and in no way encourages me play when i don't want to. I just hope people don't start screwing over their team for what, imo, is nothing.

I don't understand them either.

But 2XP is not intended to encourage you to play when you don't want to as much as to pick a larger variety of mechs when you play. For instance, I played only 5 matches last night, but I played 3 different mechs (blackjacks) because it is more efficient to get the 2XP for those mechs if I have limited play time (which I do).

[Dracol]

Sprouticus, on 07 August 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

I don't understand them either.

But 2XP is not intended to encourage you to play when you don't want to as much as to pick a larger variety of mechs when you play. For instance, I played only 5 matches last night, but I played 3 different mechs (blackjacks) because it is more efficient to get the 2XP for those mechs if I have limited play time (which I do).

Same for me. Instead of trying to gain XP for one mech for the 2 and 1/2 hours I played last night, I ran in three mechs. Two that I hadn't mastered yet, and the then the new one I'm grinding up.

[Fishhawk]

I guess I still don't understand why 2XP is a bad thing.

Like the two previous posters, it encourages me to play 3-4 mechs that I haven't quite Mastered yet, but was tired of the grind on them. Now I can at least put in a match or three to get the first win on them.

As to the OP's two points.

1) It's hard to believe people can b*tch MORE on these forums.
2) So how does throwing a match give them more xp ?

[MeiSooHaityu]

Hey, I like the 2xXP because it is giving me more of a reason to play through the Ravens to get the XP tree filled out for the 3L. Man I hate the other Ravens LOL.

[Cybermech]

I understand the OP's point.
Kinda agree with it creating more negatives then positives.
Still a good game does not need these kinds of things.

Not like I disagree with it totally, just feels like a small filler.

[MaddMaxx]

Wolfways, on 06 August 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Why does there need to be any bonus?

Because if not you end up with Pathetic threads like these. Once entitled, always entitled I guess.

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