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[Joe Mallad]

What I mean is... We all know that you will be able to charge in the game and there is even a Charge SKILL that you can have that will reduce the amount of damage you the one (CHARGING) will take.

SO... IF the 80 ton Charger makes it into the game. I will keep the 5 small lasers but max out the armor if it can take any more and then equip the mech with MASC.

MASC allows a mech to move at twice the mech's normal walking speed.
the Charger can move normally at 54 km/h walking and 86 km/h running at max speed.
BUT with MASC... like I said you double its walking speed and that would make the Charger move at 104 km/h

Now... you run into anything lighter than your 80 tons with MASC on and using your CHARGE skill... all the while blazing away with those 5 small lasers to soften up your charged target and you have a 80 tone MW LINEBACKER

Edited by Yoseful Mallad, 12 June 2012 - 07:22 PM.

[Insidious Johnson]

OP^ favors OP* melee! This thread is IMBA~!

^OP= Original Poster
*OP= Over Powered
~IMBA= Imbalanced

[Vinohrady]

Thats all well and good, but if your 80 ton charger uses a teams weight limit (if there is one) and you charge at say a hunchback, as your charging you have to aim at them, he unloads and alpha into your CT, you charge, he dies, goes nova kills you, thats a 30 ton switch, and if he jumps out the way your whole tactic is then ruined, and if your charging in your not in cover so up to 12 mechs only have to leg you and your now an 80 tonne laughing stock.

While it would be funny I would try to be more versitile than being a 1 open ground trick pony.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Insidious Johnson, on 12 June 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

OP^ favors OP* melee! This thread is IMBA~!

^OP= Original Poster
*OP= Over Powered
~IMBA= Imbalanced

lol love the QQ about things being OP before we even get in the game
What if when yer running you take enough damage to fall?
Yeah you faceplant and your OP charge technique becomes "how to prepare one's own grave" technique.

NOT OP

[Joe Mallad]

Vinohrady, on 12 June 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

Thats all well and good, but if your 80 ton charger uses a teams weight limit (if there is one) and you charge at say a hunchback, as your charging you have to aim at them, he unloads and alpha into your CT, you charge, he dies, goes nova kills you, thats a 30 ton switch, and if he jumps out the way your whole tactic is then ruined, and if your charging in your not in cover so up to 12 mechs only have to leg you and your now an 80 tonne laughing stock.

While it would be funny I would try to be more versitile than being a 1 open ground trick pony.

im not stupid enough to use MASC and CHARGE into a mech that can really hurt me while he is looking dead at me. You use this TACTIC to blindside or hit from behind where their armor is weaker. You have to remember, this game will indeed be about TACTICS and not who can fit more guns on their mech. In fact, i used this very tactic very effectively many times in table top and killed many lighter mech this way. Also as the Charger is used as a Garrison unit. This build would make for a great defender unit for your support units and or base defense. I guarantee that any light, medium and or Heavy mech for that matter that was charged in this manor will not fell good afterward.

Edited by Yoseful Mallad, 12 June 2012 - 07:41 PM.

[Insidious Johnson]

Vinohrady, on 12 June 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

Thats all well and good, but if your 80 ton charger uses a teams weight limit (if there is one) and you charge at say a hunchback, as your charging you have to aim at them, he unloads and alpha into your CT, you charge, he dies, goes nova kills you, thats a 30 ton switch, and if he jumps out the way your whole tactic is then ruined, and if your charging in your not in cover so up to 12 mechs only have to leg you and your now an 80 tonne laughing stock.

While it would be funny I would try to be more versitile than being a 1 open ground trick pony.

thank you for supporting the MELEE portion of the argument. Your points remain valid until it comes about based on your passionate plea for a charger to be able to defend itself after a failed charge, since it was made AS a melee mech.

[Major Bill Curtis]

I look forward to legging your Charger at 600 meters.

[Lt muffins]

Major Bill Curtis, on 12 June 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

I look forward to legging your Charger at 600 meters.

making challenges with everyone are you, I wont leg you but I will be aiming at you cockpit

[Sychodemus]

The thread title intrigued me. I thought perhaps you were melting down a Charger miniature and reforging it into a Linebacker.

I am now disappointed.

Thanks.

Edited by Sychodemus, 12 June 2012 - 08:20 PM.

[TheMadTypist]

I think they actually mentioned somewhere that MASC won't be in on release. Or the charger, for that matter. Oh well, it'll be in eventually!

I look forward to the day when I look out the side port of my sprinting scout 'mech to see an 80 ton assault keeping up with me, then slamming into the enemy. A most glorious sight.

Perhaps they'll have introduced a limited form of melee by then so I can watch you kick them to death while they try to stand back up.

[shortpainter]

I'll set up a Stalker as a Charger when the game come out. It sounds fun.

[Koshadows]

what? melee? No-dachi please?

better yet, berserker. 100 ton of pure "please shoot me cause i'm charging at you"

[BarHaid]

Yoseful Mallad, on 12 June 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

im not stupid enough to use MASC and CHARGE into a mech that can really hurt me while he is looking dead at me. You use this TACTIC to blindside or hit from behind where their armor is weaker. You have to remember, this game will indeed be about TACTICS and not who can fit more guns on their mech. In fact, i used this very tactic very effectively many times in table top and killed many lighter mech this way. Also as the Charger is used as a Garrison unit. This build would make for a great defender unit for your support units and or base defense. I guarantee that any light, medium and or Heavy mech for that matter that was charged in this manor will not fell good afterward.

This is where teamwork comes into play. Especially in a urban environment! If you can get your lance mates to funnel the enemy onto a long boulevard that you are running down; BAM! Bowling for mechs! Granted, this would take a lot of precise timing, but oh the payoff!

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Koshadows, on 12 June 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

what? melee? No-dachi please?

better yet, berserker. 100 ton of pure "please shoot me cause i'm charging at you"

100 tons of you BETTER shoot me cause Im charging you

[Southern Taxi]

TheMadTypist, on 12 June 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

I think they actually mentioned somewhere that MASC won't be in on release. Or the charger, for that matter. Oh well, it'll be in eventually!

I look forward to the day when I look out the side port of my sprinting scout 'mech to see an 80 ton assault keeping up with me, then slamming into the enemy. A most glorious sight.

Perhaps they'll have introduced a limited form of melee by then so I can watch you kick them to death while they try to stand back up.

LOL, I pictured a Catapult jumping into an already charged and fallen Flea... talking about overkill...

[Ian]

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What I mean is... We all know that you will be able to charge in the game and there is even a Charge SKILL that you can have that will reduce the amount of damage you the one (CHARGING) will take.

SO... IF the 80 ton Charger makes it into the game. I will keep the 5 small lasers but max out the armor if it can take any more and then equip the mech with MASC.

MASC allows a mech to move at twice the mech's normal walking speed.
the Charger can move normally at 54 km/h walking and 86 km/h running at max speed.
BUT with MASC... like I said you double its walking speed and that would make the Charger move at 104 km/h

Now... you run into anything lighter than your 80 tons with MASC on and using your CHARGE skill... all the while blazing away with those 5 small lasers to soften up your charged target and you have a 80 tone MW LINEBACKER

I'll stick with guns, and shoot you.

[Joe Mallad]

shortpainter, on 12 June 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

I'll set up a Stalker as a Charger when the game come out. It sounds fun.

Well I guess some will think twice when I charge my 100 ton atlas into their mech. Also once MASC is able to be used... This will be great to add to the slow atlas to give it much needed speed when the need is there. And for those that say they will have fun legging me when I'm coming at them with charge and MASC... You try legging a 100 ton Atlas with 304 armor and see how effective you leg me before I plow 100 tons into you lol

Edited by Yoseful Mallad, 13 June 2012 - 05:09 AM.

[Joe Mallad]

Ian, on 12 June 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

no




I'll stick with guns, and shoot you.

That's if you can hit me

[Karl Streiger]

Charging BattleMechs - that is the thing that i love most on the Table and the thing that turns a smooth game into a dead serious thing.
However back to OP - Charger with MASC means SL tech so why not use it full -> take the 3K for example - downgrade the pulse laser to standard ones give you enough room for MASC.

However a charging Banshee will do the same damage as a charging Charger - keep that in mind.

[Demoulius]

Wait you got skills in MWO?