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[Funkadelic Mayhem]

I was always a MG fan. Even before the last 2 damage buffs. It was the crits I loved. I never wanted MG as a primary weapon, nor wanted a dmg increase at the cost of crits! I was in just about every MG thread saying DO NOT INCREASE DAMAGE AT THE COST OF THE CRITS! But a bunch of (insert rage insult here) cried they wanted it to do more damage. Now my beloved weapon is worthless for my game. Which makes this game worthless to me.

Ill be lurking the forums hoping they go back to the good old days but I simply cant play anymore. PGI I hope you can lower the dmg and put the crits back to where they were.

[Training Instructor]

They nerfed them because so many tools were abusing the spider's broken hit detection to lolerskate their way to high damage matches. Puts the Cicada 3C back down in it's place as one of the worst variants though. Way to go PGI.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

yep.
I dont own a spider. My 2 fav mechs the Cicada 3c and Rvn 4x are worthless now. I dont like any of the other mechs enough to want to play with them. So I just wont play.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 20 August 2013 - 01:15 PM.

[Devils Advocate]

There was absolutely no problem with machineguns before this and now they've been dramatically nerfed. I mean it's a weapon that you have to be inside of 120 meters staring at the enemy to use. It's worse than a small laser against armor.

Please stop PGI. Just stop. Or start communicating. Use your words instead of arbitrarily screwing over values.

[Corvus Antaka]

dramatically nurfed?

i though the crit chance just went down about half from what it was?!

[Qrbaza]

just played with HBK-4G 3xMPL and 3xMG's and i can say MG's are still good to use.

[Leggin Ho]

Does this mean I won't see the tools that were boating them and holding the trigger down without the barrels melting away then?

[HadesOne]

The MG is totally pointless to boat with now.

It was a high-risk high-reward weapon build, getting in close and having to wrangle the cone to get kills. Now it is completely worthless. Not only was its crit chance -halved-, its crit damage was reduced by 1/3.

I agree with the OP, I have never been so disappointed in PGI. I don't even use my MG-build mech that often, but it seems like they are trending to get rid of every good brawler build, and make us all mindless LRM boats and skill-less peekaboo snipers. If you stand their and let someone hose you with MGs, you should pay for it.

I can't even hose a light now the crits are so bad.

MG builds weren't even being used in the professional competitive play, so why nerf?

I will not be playing/buying anything until it is changed. Stop downing stuff just because people QQ.

[Ronstar]

Bull$&%^!!!!

The MG is way over powered, and needs a nerf! Now MG spiders are coring and killing me from the backside in about 10 secs

Edited by Ronstar, 20 August 2013 - 04:27 PM.

[riverslq]

Reducing the crit probability of Machine Guns. (0.11, 0.06, 0.02 > 0.06, 0.03, 0.01)


Yep, it's all PGI knows how to do.. Halve things. (or double!)
Not actually playtest to find out a good value..

[Milocinia]

I'm disappointed by this and find it unnecessary. What annoys me is that the number of complaints weren't even that high and PGI decide to nerf them. MGs were finally in a perfect place where you had to stack them for them to be good and they still couldn't do much against an opponent with armour.

We complain numerously and loudly about real balance fails and they never get fixed.

Insert the Jackie Chan meme here...

[Asmosis]

Its still in a buffed state compared to what it was before the crit overflow damage. They were good DPS prior to both adjustments for their weight, and continue to be.

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 20 August 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

yep.
I dont own a spider. My 2 fav mechs the Cicada 3c and Rvn 4x are worthless now. I dont like any of the other mechs enough to want to play with them. So I just wont play.

Did they only become your favorite mechs a week ago? if not why not just use w/e configuration you used when they were your favorite mechs, since MG's are definitely superior now to what they were back then.

[Modo44]

Do not lead with MGs. It looks like bullets are flying, but they hit like lasers. You will see decent damage still.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Asmosis, on 20 August 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

Its still in a buffed state compared to what it was before the crit overflow damage. They were good DPS prior to both adjustments for their weight, and continue to be.



Did they only become your favorite mechs a week ago? if not why not just use w/e configuration you used when they were your favorite mechs, since MG's are definitely superior now to what they were back then.

did you read my post? If not let me quote it for you.

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 20 August 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

I was always a MG fan. Even before the last 2 damage buffs. It was the crits I loved.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 20 August 2013 - 10:59 PM.

[LordDante]

Ronstar, on 20 August 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

Bull$&%^!!!!

The MG is way over powered, and needs a nerf! Now MG spiders are coring and killing me from the backside in about 10 secs

its because of the large laser thats what slicing ur back open! anyone who ignores a mech thas chewing on his backside deserves to die in a large plasma ball ( that we regretebly dont have )

[Rashkae]

I'm sorry, but MGs should not even be in MWO at all. They are an anti-infantry weapon.