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#21 Reslin

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 02:08 PM

View Post0okami, on 23 August 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

A green apple and a red apple taste differently, grow differently, take different amount of time to mature, can be used to make different things that needs to taste a specific way... the list goes on.

I swear everytime I see my notifications and realize one is from you, I sigh slightly because already then I know that this is going to be an even greater waste of my time than the previous one was...

Seriously though darling you are wavering more than a flag in a storm atm....
Make up your mind, claim one thing and then stick to it.
Dont contradict yourself over and over again in the same post....


According to this you also agree with what I said when I said:

One can also argue that a banana and an apple are the same since they are fruits.

And if so then this entire debate is a waste of time as you have already agreed with me that its not the same.



Here you are finally starting to get it. I must applaud you for getting closer to the the core of the matter and finally being if nothing else then a little bit closer to enlightenment.

Now however, with the slow progress we are making here I must admit that you are starting to get on my nerves, should you decide to reply to this, then by all means go ahead but I for one am done wasting my time trying to make you understand something that clearly went over your head to begin with.
I would say that caring was one of my virtues but I am afraid that I simply have run out of cares to give for the time being.

Still have a nice day.
-0okami


Nope. You have proven that you still don't understand my point. The banana vs apple was a strawman argument that is meant to distract us from the actual point. The Red/Black brick argument is a perfect comparison between "our builds not being the same." argument. A red apple and green apple in the end are still apples no matter how much you claim otherwise. This is not a subject up for debate and another thing that isn't up for debate is the fact that your build and his suggested build are both LBX10 builds. If you argue an apple and banana cannot both be fruit because they are different that would be equally wrong.

You didn't have to announce your frustration it was already evident with your passive aggressive digs at me. Feel free not to respond back to me. I really don't care. The big problem here is you seem to have an issue with someone having a differing viewpoint than yourself. I have no issues with you and I wasn't trying to change the way you feel about anything. Just providing a different outlook.

Edited by Reslin, 23 August 2013 - 02:17 PM.


#22 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 03:17 PM

OP, I run a 2xERPPC, 3xMG 4G that is alot of fun to play. Admittedly, it's only using a 255 STD but so far it's still pretty viable and fun.

#23 slayerkdm

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:35 PM

View Post0okami, on 23 August 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:


No offense to you, but you did not build what i suggested.
the closest you can get to my build, with a standard engine, is this : http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2160b04d28b4c40

So if you want a 275 Standard with 2 machineguns, 3 M lasers and an LBX, then you will need to seriously cut back on armour to the point where you become an oversized slow jenner.

Furthermore the build with the stock engine would be lacking ammo so bad that you might aswell not bring any weapons except for the M lasers anyway...

So no... you did not make my build with a stock 275 engine and if you did it was simply not viable.

Remember, my build had 2 machineguns, 3 medium lasers and an LBX - if your standard build does not have all those weapons then it is not the same as my build.

If you retain your statement, then by all means, post a build made on smurfy.
I surely would enjoy seeing it.


You were very close. HBK-4G. I find it enough ammo, have never run out yet. The meta has changed, very little legging going on now. Sorry, I did not mean to offend you, or criticize your build, though I can see how it came off that way.

#24 slayerkdm

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:45 PM

Yikes, I only read the first reply to my reply to this post. Turned into a firestorm. Anyway, I have settled on the LBX/3ML/2MG for now and find it quite fun. I did try an XL version, but wasn't for me, possibly my piloting skills are insufficient for that build. I think I actually prefer playing this over the standard AC20 build. I don't think its better, but its rather fun. Then again, after so many matches in my venerable 4G, I may have just needed a change. I know the build is rivaling my DD and Flame for success.

#25 Reslin

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:48 PM

View Postslayerkdm, on 23 August 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Yikes, I only read the first reply to my reply to this post. Turned into a firestorm. Anyway, I have settled on the LBX/3ML/2MG for now and find it quite fun. I did try an XL version, but wasn't for me, possibly my piloting skills are insufficient for that build. I think I actually prefer playing this over the standard AC20 build. I don't think its better, but its rather fun. Then again, after so many matches in my venerable 4G, I may have just needed a change. I know the build is rivaling my DD and Flame for success.


Yup the LBX10 Hunchback is solid. That's for sure. :) Have you tried 3ml Lbx10ac 275 engine version of it?

#26 slayerkdm

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:58 PM

HBK-4GWhat Im running now

#27 Reslin

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:11 PM

View Postslayerkdm, on 23 August 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

HBK-4GWhat Im running now


I would suggest to move the ammo in your torso to your leg to avoid ammo explosion.

Edited by Reslin, 23 August 2013 - 06:12 PM.


#28 slayerkdm

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:15 PM

Good suggestion, it is, but I got lazy and just modified another file. smile. I'm really loving the LBX now. I'm running dual LBX and 4mg/2spls on my Jag and its a hoot.

#29 Gremlich Johns

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:16 PM

View PostHuskerUK, on 22 August 2013 - 07:29 AM, said:

I was thinking along the lines of this while at work today but I wanted LPL. Couldn't get it to work, loosing 4 tonnes would be hard to do


to lose - an arm

to loose - an arrow

#30 slayerkdm

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostGremlich Johns, on 23 August 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:


to lose - an arm

to loose - an arrow


I really wanted to run a LPL version too, but just cant find the tonnage, without making sacrifices I don't want to make. What I ran in my HBK for probably its first 100 matches was 3MPL/3MG. Really fun to play, but you just have to stay too vulnerable for too long in the higher alpha builds of the day. I think Ill try it again though for grins.

#31 HuskerUK

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:03 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 22 August 2013 - 12:56 PM, said:

my 2ct?

If you don't plan on an AC20, use the 4H instead.


Its my founders 4G so I want to make it work. It was my first and only 'mech for a long time.

#32 HuskerUK

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:13 AM

View PostGremlich Johns, on 23 August 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:


to lose - an arm

to loose - an arrow



Poorly proofread on my part, unlike most people I actually like to be picked up for such things.

#33 mack sabbath

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:40 PM

View Post0okami, on 23 August 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:


No offense to you, but you did not build what i suggested.
the closest you can get to my build, with a standard engine, is this : http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2160b04d28b4c40

So if you want a 275 Standard with 2 machineguns, 3 M lasers and an LBX, then you will need to seriously cut back on armour to the point where you become an oversized slow jenner.

Furthermore the build with the stock engine would be lacking ammo so bad that you might aswell not bring any weapons except for the M lasers anyway...

So no... you did not make my build with a stock 275 engine and if you did it was simply not viable.

Remember, my build had 2 machineguns, 3 medium lasers and an LBX - if your standard build does not have all those weapons then it is not the same as my build.

If you retain your statement, then by all means, post a build made on smurfy.
I surely would enjoy seeing it.



In 12 v 12, do you find yourself ammo starved on protracted engagements?

#34 Sasha Volkova

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:13 PM

View PostDie Primate Die, on 24 August 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:



In 12 v 12, do you find yourself ammo starved on protracted engagements?

Haha that build is not something I would ever run :b
It was just a part of a long tiring discussion I had with another entity.

#35 mack sabbath

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:22 PM

View Post0okami, on 24 August 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Haha that build is not something I would ever run :b
It was just a part of a long tiring discussion I had with another entity.



He'd be a great tunnel rat though....fire like hell for 45 seconds! B)

Damned Combine Kamikaze Hunchbacks!

Edited by Die Primate Die, 24 August 2013 - 02:24 PM.


#36 Sasha Volkova

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostDie Primate Die, on 24 August 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:



He'd be a great tunnel rat though....fire like hell for 45 seconds! B)

Damned Combine Kamikaze Hunchbacks!

Hahaha yea, then we only need stackpoling implemented and then the Kamikaze Hunchies could be a reality :b





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