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[OnLashoc]

I think people need to stop with the inflammatory behavior towards PGI and it's staff.

You don't want 3PV, I think they get it. Can you guys be a little more mature and stop attacking their character? I am surprised they haven't been banning people for using their forums and services they provide to bad mouth and spread down right lies about the company and their product. Regardless if you like the product or not, I think there is a more mature and rational way to respectfully disagree with PGI and their products / services they provide us free of charge.

[Kattspya]

What are the lies spread?

What kind of respect do they deserve?

I only see people disparage their (lack of) professional abilities and with good cause.
I also think there were more mature ways to announce 3pv. You get what you give

[DeadlyNerd]

OnLashoc, on 26 August 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

I think people need to stop with the inflammatory behavior towards PGI and it's staff.

You don't want 3PV, I think they get it. Can you guys be a little more mature and stop attacking their character? I am surprised they haven't been banning people for using their forums and services they provide to bad mouth and spread down right lies about the company and their product. Regardless if you like the product or not, I think there is a more mature and rational way to respectfully disagree with PGI and their products / services they provide us free of charge.

AHOY SILVER, AWAY!

There fixed it for ya.

[Drollzy]

i agree with you mate... some of the players are just a bunch of QQ. PGI you have taken on a big project with MWO and I am happy with they way you have implemented things... Sure there have been many changes that I was not happy with but you know what I adapt. got no time to QQ about a game. I have pumped dollars into this game because I Loves it and will continue to because I loves it... What I dont loves is the amount of QQing... Oh he poptarded me with a PPC QQ Im going to complain and get it nerfed, oh SRMS are so OP im going to QQ about it and get it nerfed... Sheesh ppl get a grip.

[Glaive-]

Kattspya, on 26 August 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:

What are the lies spread?

What kind of respect do they deserve?

I only see people disparage their (lack of) professional abilities and with good cause.
I also think there were more mature ways to announce 3pv. You get what you give

Enough with the weak excuses. The mistakes and bad actions that PGI has done do not in any way justify the nasty things that people have said. If "You get what you give", then everyone that has been nasty to PGI should be banned.

And besides all that, acting immature simply does not help the situation at all. If any of you people "care" at all about the game or franchise, you would watch what you say, and how you say it.

Edited by armyunit, 26 August 2013 - 11:34 PM.

[Corvus Antaka]

The complainers should go make their own mech game or ****.

[SmashedOne]

couldn't have said it better. the complainers need to stop acting like spoilt children and GROW UP. all this negativity and "i'm gonna uninstall unless pgi do xxx." go ahead and uninstall, cos you won't be missed with that attitude, and we're sick of reading your ****.
you can express your opinions without being complete tools

Edited by SmashedOne, 27 August 2013 - 01:25 AM.

[Warge]

armyunit, on 26 August 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

And besides all that, acting immature simply does not help the situation at all.

What exactly situation you meen? There is a lot of them happened last time.

armyunit, on 26 August 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

If any of you people "care" at all about the game or franchise, you would watch what you say, and how you say it.

Explain to me this logic: I don't get it.

[Cola]

The real world isn't fare, all things arn't equal, respect must be earned.

[Monky]

People keep going on about complaining and complainers.

It's getting kind of old and I just want to remind you - the real world isn't fair, and you aren't going to get a pat on the head for ******** on the dining room table - whether you're PGI breaking promises or a forum goer screaming about how terrible that is.

There is only one group entirely in the right here and it's the people who stated what they don't like about it, what they're going to do about it, and then did it.

[PPO Kuro]

Most of it is complaining, a minority of the post are well written and have valid points. Post I don't like, the one attacking certain ppl directly without any actual facts. Post I do like, critical post where ppl describe their annoyance with PGI in general. Because, there are certainly things PGI NEEDS to do better.

I'm talking about communication. There making to many mistakes in that department. And it's my biggest grievance against PGI.

[RedDragon]

OnLashoc, on 26 August 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

I think people need to stop with the inflammatory behavior towards PGI and it's staff.

You don't want 3PV, I think they get it. Can you guys be a little more mature and stop attacking their character? I am surprised they haven't been banning people for using their forums and services they provide to bad mouth and spread down right lies about the company and their product. Regardless if you like the product or not, I think there is a more mature and rational way to respectfully disagree with PGI and their products / services they provide us free of charge.

Aww and I thought we were going to disrespect PGI and its staff in this thread
*Sadly leaves*

[NuclearPanda]

I don't believe I've disrespected PGI or staff in any of my posts around here. Personally I vote with my money, not my mouth. I've already made it known I'll continue to play the game but refuse to spend any, or purchase any MC points until things begin to improve on their end (communication, NOT LYING OUTRIGHT, fixing HSR and hit detections instead of trying to put in shiny things to attempt to divert our interest, etc).

I'd rather make suggestions than accusations, such as my idea of actually send out the occasional email survey to the complete playerbase to get feedback instead of writing off the forums as a small subsection of mech pilots.

[DEN_Ninja]

I remember many months back when this behavior started to emerge. It was bad then and has only degraded into chaos.

PGI has been developing this game for less than 2 years with a dev staff that numbers less then 100 people.

They made very obviously optimistic plans and time scales that fell short. Do I fault them for trying to be optimistic? No, quite happy with the game myself. Do I fault them for lying? No, they did not lie. The lack of communication has caused this.

Did anyone know that despite Garth saying that 3PV and Consumable Coolant were not going to be in the game that there were people on the dev team that DID want it in the game? Yes, you heard me. I have listened to podcasts and interviewers and I have a distinct recollection from people like Paul and Russ that all concepts are discussed. They are continually discussed and fought over. There are factions even in the dev team.

Guess what? 3PV was the result of the lack of beginner tutorials and interfacing. It is stated itself that 3PV is primarily so that new players can grow accustom to the separate torso and leg movement.

Coolant and consumables was the result of that set of people winning over the dev team to develop.

They don't constantly update us on features they debate about. The only person responsible for trying to get the news out is Garth. Even then to get a solid majority to go with a feature and start development on it is harder still along with informing Garth of what is absolute or not.

In the end, this causes a significant amount of unknowns and leaving many fans confused about the direction. The unknown facts lead to assumptions and those assumptions often lead to misunderstandings and rage.

Does anyone else get that Cryengine 3.4 is relatively new and not fully fleshed out? Does anyone know that PGI had to completely code the netcode and innerworkings of cryengine and its problems? The core reason for a lot of missing features like MASC, HSR, Collisions are the result of poor netcode and networking with cryengine and its limitations?

Let the idiots get mad just because they are selfish and wish for the game to be in their image. Do you know what happens when you take a game and develop it to the consumer majority feedback? Ever play Duke Nukem Forever? Oh and that rage of fans towards the poor lady that wrote Mass Effect's ending.

I don't mind the constructive criticism of old. I just want to do away with the horrible attitude that PGI has gone into every fan's home and shot their dog. Furthermore i'd love to see every selfish little ***** go to PGI's website and press the "We're Hiring" button. I WANT TO Y'ALL MAKE THIS GAME FROM SCRATCH IN LESS THEN 2 YEARS

Edited by Tichorius Davion, 27 August 2013 - 06:04 AM.

[Kattspya]

armyunit, on 26 August 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Enough with the weak excuses. The mistakes and bad actions that PGI has done do not in any way justify the nasty things that people have said. If "You get what you give", then everyone that has been nasty to PGI should be banned.

And besides all that, acting immature simply does not help the situation at all. If any of you people "care" at all about the game or franchise, you would watch what you say, and how you say it.

You seem angry and not very constructive. I asked a couple of questions and would like them answered.

Give examples of the nasty things and the lies said. I don't know what you mean specifically and I suspect you take offense to things I think are just desserts

[Ravensshadow]

PPO Kuro, on 27 August 2013 - 02:15 AM, said:

Most of it is complaining, a minority of the post are well written and have valid points. Post I don't like, the one attacking certain ppl directly without any actual facts. Post I do like, critical post where ppl describe their annoyance with PGI in general. Because, there are certainly things PGI NEEDS to do better.

I'm talking about communication. There making to many mistakes in that department. And it's my biggest grievance against PGI.

I have been extremely critical of pgi and attacking people personally is unnacceptable. I have yet to read a single lie.... Name one or stop lying your self.

[Ravensshadow]

OnLashoc, on 26 August 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

I think people need to stop with the inflammatory behavior towards PGI and it's staff.

You don't want 3PV, I think they get it. Can you guys be a little more mature and stop attacking their character? I am surprised they haven't been banning people for using their forums and services they provide to bad mouth and spread down right lies about the company and their product. Regardless if you like the product or not, I think there is a more mature and rational way to respectfully disagree with PGI and their products / services they provide us free of charge.

Your the one that seems to be upset and angry and [ersonally attacking and insulting people.. Get over yoruself, It is a FACT they told us we were never going to be forced to play against 3pvers, It is a FACT the community have fount SEVERAL exploits, It is a FACT they have not responded to the mwo communities concerns about 3pv, and it is a FACT that they are disrespecting us by no responding to our concerns.

NAME A SINGLE LIE TOLD. you cant because out replies are while critical they are accurate and true.

[Noonan]

The forum moderation seems to be highly insufficient IMO. Numerous troll posts that are allowed to multiply like rabbits. Until proper forum moderation occurs, the posts will continue to have this tone. If I was a new player checking out MWO these forums would cause me to move on and continue to look for a game to play.

[DEN_Ninja]

Noonan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

The forum moderation seems to be highly insufficient IMO. Numerous troll posts that are allowed to multiply like rabbits. Until proper forum moderation occurs, the posts will continue to have this tone. If I was a new player checking out MWO these forums would cause me to move on and continue to look for a game to play.

I can say that about many game forums...Starcraft, League, Dota, Warthunder, WoT, the list goes on and on. Its a tad bit sad. Especially considering that the median age of players is well above their 30's. You would expect a lot more maturity.

[Taxxian]

Ravensshadow, on 27 August 2013 - 06:42 AM, said:

I have been extremely critical of pgi and attacking people personally is unnacceptable. I have yet to read a single lie.... Name one or stop lying your self.

If you didn't attack someone personal and you expressed your opinion in a modest manner thats absolutely fine, and this thread is not about you...

To the lies:

"I will unstall the game..."
"I NEVER EVER pay one dollar again"
"I will buy Hero Mech X immediately once you fix Y ASAP!"
"I will nerver play a PGI game again!"
"Premium time is completely useless now, I will never buy Premium again!"
"By, by the game is over for me!"

You think they ALL really meant and did what they wrote?