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[Gunivar]

Is there any worthwhile builds you can do with this thing, or I was just being a moron when I suddenly decided to buy it with my hard earned C Bills?

[Zolaz]

Yes, PGI was trolling the community when they made this mech. I have Mastered this chassis and since sold them all. PGI says that they will eventually fix this mech. But, they have been saying that for a year now.

[Chuanhao]

The Awesome 8Q was my first mech and it requires some strategizing to use it properly. Being an all PPC layout, a sniping role would be ideal. As such, looking for overwatch positions that provide LOS to the enemy, and being able to leverage the range of the PPC, has been pretty satisfying in terms of results and outcomes.

[Toong]

Awesomes aren't very popular now, but as more features get added to the game and more balance passes get pushed out, they'll eventually find their way back into the 'mechbays of more people. Give it time.

Here's another way of looking at it: Ever hear the phrase, "Your losses aren't realized until you sell?" I think that applies really strongly to MWO. If you sell your awesome, you'll lose millions. Keep it for the day it gets better.

Oh, also, obligatory comment about how there's no such thing as a bad 'mech.

[No Guts No Glory]

Better than wasting MC on a Golden Boy or Pretty Baby.

[Mahws]

It's not the best Assualt, but you can make it work.

I use a similair build to this one (AWS-8Q) on my 9M.

Group 1: ERPPC
Group 2: 3xLL
Group 3: 3xLL chainfire

The ERPPC is mostly for poking, the real show is the Large Lasers.

Keep with the pack and focus on damaged enemies to bring them down quickly.

[Modo44]

It is generally worse than a Victor, but it can make a useful support mech. Take pepsi and lazors (there is a dozen different configs to try), shoot into a brawl. For survivability, learn to show the enemy your huge arms.

[Hexenhammer]

No Guts No Glory, on 25 August 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Better than wasting MC on a Golden Boy or Pretty Baby.

Word to your mother.

I bought an Ilya on sale months.... MONTHS ago. Total game time? 00:13:10. Barely 13 minutes!

Stalker-3f: 22:23:32
Atlas-D: 30:38:22
Atlas-D-DC: 12:55:26
Jagermech JM6-DD 11:32:31

All bought with C-bills.

I've bought the Ilya and X-5. I'll probably master the X-5 before I unlock the Ilya's novice skills.

[Zordicron]

You will have to mess with it. In my experience, both myself and those i have played against, people are either REALLY GOOD in awesomes, and will lead a team in dmg etc, or REALLY bad and dont understand you cant hit X and stare face on into your target and survive. LOL, I blew away a full life 9M a week ago in my half dead Jager A because I moved and shot him with SRMs and he stood there and tried to turn and aim his torso ERPPC at me.

If you see me in my 9M, I will either get focused down fast (and still do 150dmg) or I will kill 1/4 of the enemy team and assist on 3 or 4 more. or at least do comparable dmg with more assists. My 8R LURMPOCKOLYPSE has been semi-retired, I mastered it with a 2.6 K/D ratio and 1.5 W/L ratio, but it is sitting until the hit detection stuff isnt so borked.

I do not own an 8Q yet. I was going to buy one actually on Friday night, but resisted due to wanting a C-bill hoarde for the Overlord release as i will need a chunk o' bills for DHS. My 8V is LRM based too, so I have been neglecting the last 10k XP to master it.

If you are good in the thing, you will know soon enough. If you suck, you will know that too. but give it a whirl, and even if you are not meant for it, sit on it anyway because IMO they will look at the arms/side torso hit box stuff some time after launch.

Protip: if you are going to PPC it for support fire, that means you will be a ways off and facing your enemy. Stock Awesome has like 35 armor in the back! Make sure you re-allocate that precious CT protection to the front where you will be recieving all the return fire from range.

[Capt Jester]

Hexenhammer, on 25 August 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Word to your mother.

I bought an Ilya on sale months.... MONTHS ago. Total game time? 00:13:10. Barely 13 minutes!

Stalker-3f: 22:23:32
Atlas-D: 30:38:22
Atlas-D-DC: 12:55:26
Jagermech JM6-DD 11:32:31

All bought with C-bills.

I've bought the Ilya and X-5. I'll probably master the X-5 before I unlock the Ilya's novice skills.

The Cataphract is very subjective. Some love it, some hate it. The first time I tried the 4X I sold it after 20 minutes after trying 4 different popular builds. All I see them used effectively for now are 3xUAC/5, 4xAC/5, or 4xAC/2 builds across most variants.

As for OP, the only Awesome I own is the 8R and I don't much like it. Awesomes are super big (way out of scale if you ask me -- too wide. They're like a giant sponge) and not of much use. Few pilots I see do well in Awesomes. If you have MechBays to spare, just hold on to it for the possibility of the eventual Awesome passover that might make it not so terrible.

Edited by Capt Jester, 25 August 2013 - 09:32 PM.

[Aethos]

Since ghost heat you can't truly laserboat it, as a sniper, well it doesn't really hide well. And Its slow to maneuver.

PB/9M are hands down the best AWS variants, + 8R ALRM60 boats.

3pv killed this game anyways. Haven't logged in since, won't till they enable separate ques.

[Lyoto Machida]

Mahws, on 25 August 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

It's not the best Assualt, but you can make it work.

I use a similair build to this one (AWS-8Q) on my 9M.

Group 1: ERPPC
Group 2: 3xLL
Group 3: 3xLL chainfire

The ERPPC is mostly for poking, the real show is the Large Lasers.

Keep with the pack and focus on damaged enemies to bring them down quickly.

Hmm...I run a 2 ERPPC/4LL build (IIRC). Probably don't need an XL engine but there's no reason not to take it in an Awesome.

I'd buy an 8R before the 8Q...I'm terrible in the 8Q but decent in the 8R. Barely getting the 9M to even:

AWS-8Q 61 29 32 0.91 21 41 0.51 12,614 37,467 05:29:21
AWS-8R 215 119 96 1.24 273 111 2.46 70,265 204,813 21:14:37
AWS-9M 40 21 19 1.11 23 25 0.92 10,639 29,164 03:56:03

Holy {Scrap}...just noticed that I'm killing it in the KTO-18 so far. LRMs lol:
KTO-18 16 10 6 1.67 26 5 5.20 4,826 17,077 01:56:04

Edited by Lyoto Machida, 26 August 2013 - 04:40 PM.

[Flying Blind]

I remember when the centurion was called the worst mech in the game.I don't think anyone calls it that now. I say hang on to it and try to find a build you enjoy, you never know when the awesome will suddenly be a real contender. If you can find a way to have fun with it who care? I have been racking up kills and 700+ damage in a kintaro last few days so anything is possible

[Corvus Antaka]

The awesome has a very small side profile that lends to protecting it's torsos. you need to make sure that aside from shooting the enemy your mech is never facing them. 2 or 3 PPC works best. the LRM boat awesome can also be very effective.

[Ixion]

Gunivar, on 25 August 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Is there any worthwhile builds you can do with this thing, or I was just being a moron when I suddenly decided to buy it with my hard earned C Bills?

actually I came to the forums just to look for posts about this specific awesome or to start one. The best answer is no, its a broken mech. Being all energy with a max engine of 300, there is no way to build this mech efficiently. The current heat penalty on large lasers and PPC's means that if you put enough weaponry to actually fill 80 tons you overheat constantly. The best build I came up with was 2 PPC, 2 large lasers, and 3 mediums. I made it work best by using the 2nd PPC as backup in case the other was destroyed but not firing it otherwise, and chaining the 2 large lasers. No matter how careful you are with your heat its still less dps than most mediums, not to mention big and slow. I play the 9M variant as a pure energy weapon build, and its max 385 motor means if you use a 375 or bigger you get 3 more double heat sinks and 20 kph more speed, it's probably my favorite mech right now.

[Havok1978]

Ixion, on 27 August 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

actually I came to the forums just to look for posts about this specific awesome or to start one. The best answer is no, its a broken mech. Being all energy with a max engine of 300, there is no way to build this mech efficiently. The current heat penalty on large lasers and PPC's means that if you put enough weaponry to actually fill 80 tons you overheat constantly. The best build I came up with was 2 PPC, 2 large lasers, and 3 mediums. I made it work best by using the 2nd PPC as backup in case the other was destroyed but not firing it otherwise, and chaining the 2 large lasers. No matter how careful you are with your heat its still less dps than most mediums, not to mention big and slow. I play the 9M variant as a pure energy weapon build, and its max 385 motor means if you use a 375 or bigger you get 3 more double heat sinks and 20 kph more speed, it's probably my favorite mech right now.

actually the 8Q and 8T are two of my favorite mechs, the problem most people have is they try to pilot every mech the same and thats not how its done.

my 8Q build is 1LPL 2LL 4ML, 20 DHS... it melts face. pilot it like a centurion but dont face hug with it unless you are trying to prevent a mechs escape.

Ignore the meta comments, those folks generally are great at doing one thing and one thing only.
if you need builds for your mechs hit me up via PM i'll do what I can

Edited by Havok1978, 27 August 2013 - 05:08 PM.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Short answer: Yes.

[Nexus Omega]

I have an 8Q (plus a PB and 8R)
MIne runs with:
2xPPC
5xMPL
300STd
DHS

Thought it runs super hot now thanks to the recent MPL Buff (beam duration reduction)

The Awesome line is unforgiving, but rewarding.

[Snegtag]

One of my first -- it runs hot real hot but 3 ERPPC 1 ER laser + 3 med lasers rest all heat sinks. Smackem with the ERPPCs then I alternate betwen 1 ERPPC and the ERL laser. I do tend to hang back a bit but it works.
I have fun with all my Awesomes

[Ixion]

Havok1978, on 27 August 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

actually the 8Q and 8T are two of my favorite mechs, the problem most people have is they try to pilot every mech the same and thats not how its done.

my 8Q build is 1LPL 2LL 4ML, 20 DHS... it melts face. pilot it like a centurion but dont face hug with it unless you are trying to prevent a mechs escape.

Ignore the meta comments, those folks generally are great at doing one thing and one thing only.
if you need builds for your mechs hit me up via PM i'll do what I can

I'm not staying you can't have great matches in it. I had good matches with the 8Q, and while I don't have the 8T I do have the 8V, I have no problem with it and love playing it. I play all kinds of mechs with every imaginable build, and I'll be sure to try out what you posted just for fun. But the 8Q is the first variant of any mech I've used that's at such a clear disadvantage. You can make it work, and I had some really good matches in my build too, but that doesn't make it balanced or mean that I couldn't have done the same thing but better in almost any other mech. Instead of ignoring its problems I just want to see the 8Q on equal footing with other 80 ton mechs, because I feel that the heat penalties punish this mech more than any lower tonnage ones.