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[Hans Power]

Okay, I played for a week now and I was looking forward to this adv zoom for my catapult the whole time. Now I finally gathered those 5000 GXP and...it sucks! HARD! It's as if you made it as useless as possible. It's so grainy and unsharp that I can do much better with the standart zoom. FIX IT! I mean, seriously - how did you even manage to **** it up in the first place - it's just a friggin' zoom!? This is not rocket science. Just embarrassing!

Edited by Hans Power, 02 September 2013 - 12:27 AM.

[Bloody Moon]

Yep, been that way since Closed Beta (when it got added to the game about a year ago). It is not on PGI's priority list to fix it, so you might aswell forget that it exists and move on. Not gonna get fixed anytime soon.

[Hans Power]

Bloody Moon, on 02 September 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

Yep, been that way since Closed Beta (when it got added to the game about a year ago). It is not on PGI's priority list to fix it, so you might aswell forget that it exists and move on. Not gonna get fixed anytime soon.

How much effort would that make? They just need to take that friggin filter out and that's it! Can't be that hard compared to the other things they need to do. Also it leaves a really bad impression. It is most likely the first thing newcomers will buy as soon as they get those GXP together. Talking about myself - I'm REALLY mad right now and that definately won't get me in the mood to spend any real money on this game in the future.

Edited by Hans Power, 02 September 2013 - 12:36 AM.

[Bloody Moon]

Hans Power, on 02 September 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:

How much effort would that make? They just need to take that friggin filter out and that's it! Can't be that hard compared to the other things they need to do. Also it leaves a really bad impression. It is most likely the first thing newcomers will buy as soon as they get those GXP together. Talking about myself - I'm REALLY mad right now and that definately won't get me in the mood to spend any real money on this game in the future.

It is not a filter that you see, it should be a picture-in-picture zoom and since Cryengine does not support that it requires far more effort than taking out a single filter to make it work. With that said i can agree they should've done something about it, sadly it did not happen so far.

Edit: What you see is what happens when someone tries to force PIP zoom mode in Cryengine without rewriting the engine itself.

Edited by Bloody Moon, 02 September 2013 - 01:28 AM.

[Hans Power]

Bloody Moon, on 02 September 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

It is not a filter that you see, it should be a picture-in-picture zoom and since Cryengine does not support that it requires far more effort than taking out a single filter to make it work. With that said i can agree they should've done something about it, sadly it did not happen so far.

Edit: What you see is what happens when someone tries to force PIP zoom mode in Cryengine without rewriting the engine itself.

Oh, okay. Looked intentional to me. It was kinda like that in MW4 but there it was far more practical. In my opinion they should make it free of charge then and give GXP back to gamers who bought it. It's a bummer.

Edited by Hans Power, 02 September 2013 - 01:42 AM.

[Sasha Volkova]

Okay it seems noone is aware of this...
The engine they are using is close to unable to show picture in picture graphics clearly if you "zoom" using it.
This is why the zoom is borked.
If they made it a normal zoom like the zoom we already have when we press Z (by default) then there would be no issue.
The problem is in pic within pic situations.

So no... its not PGI but actually the engine they are using which is **** :b

Then again its PGI who decided not to make it a simple zoom function instead when they realized that it didnt work as intended.

Edited by 0okami, 02 September 2013 - 01:43 AM.

[Bloody Moon]

Hans Power, on 02 September 2013 - 01:37 AM, said:

Oh, okay. Looked intentional to me. It was kinda like that in MW4 but there it was far more practical. In my opinion they should make it free of charge then and give GXP back to gamers that bought it. It's a bummer.

As far as i know they return no GXP despite that it is not working properly.
Every now and then a new guy gets rightfully ****** off about it, but there is nothing we can do sadly aside from considering that GXP lost. Well, there you have it, there are other things that don't work properly too but you'll see them eventually.

@0okami That is what i've tried to explain in my comments.

Edited by Bloody Moon, 02 September 2013 - 01:46 AM.

[Hans Power]

Bloody Moon, on 02 September 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

As far as i know they return no GXP despite that it is not working properly.
Every now and then a new guy gets rightfully ****** off about it, but there is nothing we can do sadly aside from considering that GXP lost. Well, there you have it, there are other things that don't work properly too but you'll see them eventually.

@0okami That is what i've tried to explain in my comments.

Also - as bad as this is - I almost forgot that the game still is beta and beta is beta, after all. So I'll save my rightious anger for the final version.

[GrandLocomon]

I don't understand the engine limitations per se, but I do get the fact that it is hard to make it actually work. That doesn't explain why it is in the game at all, and why we had to pay GXP and C-bills for a seemingly good but totally useless item.

[Hans Power]

GrandLocomon, on 02 September 2013 - 02:09 AM, said:

I don't understand the engine limitations per se, but I do get the fact that it is hard to make it actually work. That doesn't explain why it is in the game at all, and why we had to pay GXP and C-bills for a seemingly good but totally useless item.

I agree. Also some more transparency about the issue would help.

[Bloody Moon]

Hans Power, on 02 September 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

I agree. Also some more transparency about the issue would help.

I'll try to hold back my sarcasm here and only say that transparency was never PGI's or MWO's strongest point.

[Hans Power]

Bloody Moon, on 02 September 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

I'll try to hold back my sarcasm here and only say that transparency was never PGI's or MWO's strongest point.

I see. They'll need to work on that to stay competetive in the long run. Even EA tries (more or less successfully) to improve its image as well as Ubisoft. And even casual gamers seem to get more cautious and there is a lot of competition in free2play games these days.
Anyway, I definately won't go for anything costly anymore without checking with the community first.

Edited by Hans Power, 02 September 2013 - 02:40 AM.

[Ensaine]

EA is dead to me since they totally failed on a major IP: Star Wars. Touted as a AAA MMO WoW challenger (the 2 doctors said so), it went from a $15/month sub MMO to a F2P mere shell of what it was supposed to be. HOW does one let an IP like Star Wars fail ...???

As for the Zoom module, I first spectated a player with it in Closed Beta.... decided then and there 'No Way'. IMO it's a total waste, and I advise same with people I meet who are new to the game.

[Emogician]

It's all the little broken parts of the game that upset everyone. I said the same thing when I bought the zoom a long time ago. PGI just overpromised a lot of stuff, and can't go back and fix this before launch.

[ShinVector]

i tried it again.. Agreed... !

[Barrett]

I bought myself a proper advanced zoom. A 23" LED LCD screen. I can now harass mechs on Forest colony, with my Gauss, within the first 20 seconds.

[Rebel Roshak]

This is why we dont have advanced zoom. I wish they would fix it, was okish back in closed. But then went wonky!

AtD 44 -
Question from Mechiro:

What will happen to Command Console component and Advanced Zoom module on the launch date, will they stay as they are right now? Command Console does nothing other than taking place and weight when mounted. Advanced Zoom does not work as expected:* current zoom level returns to 1x and shows blurry image where almost nothing can be seen, and after being turned off zoom level remains 1x (does not return to previous level).* mechs are indistinguishable, triangles that show friend or foe are constantly moving back and forth to match zoom levels of 1x and 4x.

Answer from David:

The exact nature of how the Command Console will work keeps changing and evolving. It’s possible but unlikely that it will be updated before launch. Hopefully we can get it in not too long after, but it’s currently not scheduled.
Regarding Advanced Zoom, that has admittedly gotten left by the wayside. It’s still too expensive to properly render a picture in picture zoom like that, but we probably should take another look at that module, and find some ways to make it more viable.

Edited by Rebel Roshak, 02 September 2013 - 07:37 AM.

[M4jk]

Barrett, on 02 September 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:

I bought myself a proper advanced zoom. A 23" LED LCD screen. I can now harass mechs on Forest colony, with my Gauss, within the first 20 seconds.

I have 24" and it is still too small for that. I would really welcome if they can just do it as "normal" 4x zoom, do not understand what is so F*****G tough on that...

[Barrett]

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It’s still too expensive to properly render a picture in picture zoom like that,

Dafuq did I just read?

[Ridersofdoom]

this was my first disappointment in the game long time ago, and showed me the quality of the work they are doing here.