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[xxxRocketxxx]

I got setup with a macro. The Gauss is even better to use now.

I bought a Misery to make a build that the recent patch to gauss rifles broke. It cost me $30. I am pretty mad at this game.

I am pretty mad about it. Can't do anything about it. Just lost $30 on a bait and switch. Now I know why the mech is named Misery.

Edited by Dr Baja, 04 September 2013 - 11:54 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

I would hardly call it a bait-and-switch, mostly because PGI at no point tried to sell you the Gauss builds.

What they sold you was that mech - which yes does come with a Gauss.

I would recommend trying to look at it creatively instead of throwing a fit about it - AC20/5/10 and even the AC2 are all viable weapons that could be put there if you dislike the change they made to the Gauss (which there seems to be as many if not more in favor of it in practice as opposed at the moment)

[Davis Early]

Well, have you emailed Support about the matter?

[xxxRocketxxx]

Davis Early, on 03 September 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

Well, have you emailed Support about the matter?

Yah, I asked for a refund. But I don't expect anything. It's not the first or last bait and switch. Same thing happened on Planetside 2. I bought the Dalton gun for my ship, and then it got nerfed the same week. I should know to not spend money on free to play games. It's my fault I spent money.

Thanks though. I am not mad anymore, just feel stupid now. Took 40 minutes to sort it out.

Edited by Dr Baja, 03 September 2013 - 07:40 PM.

[Metalmantis]

Just hang with it for now , there will be some fixes I am sure or they are stupid as they went about the balance issues totally wrong.

[xxxRocketxxx]

I will grind for an LRM boat. In the meantime I will use an AC/5 version of the former gauss build, dropping from 8.87 sustained dps to 7.77 sustained dps.

3 LRM20 yields 9.17 sustained dps, and 66 max dps.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9bc912e0d4b6336

And then I gotta just make sure to never buy a mech with real money again.

Edited by Dr Baja, 03 September 2013 - 07:57 PM.

[Royalewithcheese]

I'd take some more time to get familiar with the new Gauss mechanics - some people are calling the massive array of Gauss changes a buff. If you still feel like you need to swap out your ballistic, I'd recommend an AC/20 or an AC/10. And at the end of the day, you're still in a Stalker, which is IMO an amazing mech.

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 03 September 2013 - 07:50 PM.

[CrashieJ]

Dr Baja, on 03 September 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

I bought a Misery to make a build that the recent patch to gauss rifles broke. It cost me $30. I am pretty mad at this game.

I am pretty mad about it. Can't do anything about it. Just lost $30 on a bait and switch. Now I know why the mech is named Misery.

Dr Baja, on 03 September 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

I bought a Misery to make a build that the recent patch to gauss rifles broke. It cost me $30. I am pretty mad at this game.

I am pretty mad about it. Can't do anything about it. Just lost $30 on a bait and switch. Now I know why the mech is named Misery.

aww, baby got mad because his 3ERPPC/1Gauss build got hit with a nerf bat?

it's your fault for buying a Hero mech for the sole purpose of using it for that purpose.

If I were PGI, I wouldn't give you a refund. YOU made the choice, YOU bought the damn thing for the purpose of screwing the system,

DEAL WITH IT

[xxxRocketxxx]

gavilatius, on 03 September 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

aww, baby got mad because his 3ERPPC/1Gauss build got hit with a nerf bat?

1 gauss, 1 srm6, 1 LL out dps whatever you were babbling about.

It would take 3 erppc and a gauss double the time to deal 150 damage.

Royalewithcheese, on 03 September 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

I'd take some more time to get familiar with the new Gauss mechanics - some people are calling the massive array of Gauss changes a buff. If you still feel like you need to swap out your ballistic, I'd recommend an AC/20 or an AC/10. And at the end of the day, you're still in a Stalker, which is IMO an amazing mech.

Yah, I just should not have spent real money on a mech. I am not mad anymore, just was stupid to buy a mech with real money since I knew they would change the value of things. It's not a buff for me. Some people will like them, they just made them harder for new people to use in my opinion. The build I made is still as OP by the numbers, but the operation of the build is beyond my ability.

I will just grind to get an LRM build stalker. It's an easy 9 sustained dps that I could equip 3 med lasers on.

Edited by Dr Baja, 03 September 2013 - 08:09 PM.

[Koniving]

Dr Baja, on 03 September 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

I am pretty mad about it. Can't do anything about it. Just lost $30 on a bait and switch. Now I know why the mech is named Misery.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...63cf740cf812eca

This build took on a 4 ER PPC stalker and a 4 PPC + Gauss Rifle Atlas RS, fought alone against the two of them at close range for 40 seconds to a minute, and terrified the living {Scrap} out of both of them. The Stalker was neutered (no side torsos, no weapons) and the Atlas was almost dead when the Misery finally fell.

You'll thank me later. At the time it had a UAC/5, but as my friend and I both agree if I had a regular AC/5 I would have killed them both. The damn thing spent more than 90% of the time jammed.

[Corvus Antaka]

this gauss change was announced a long time ago. Since it is still beta, you should expect such changes to still occur.

[scJazz]

People who acquire any unit in any game using in game currency or $$$ for the express purpose of using the OP FOTM build for that unit have no standing to complain when said FOTM gets nerfed! Ever!

QQ MOAR NAOW PLZ!

BTW: Not sure the changes to Gauss are in fact that horrible. I'm going to try tomorrow after I spend 2 minutes writing a Macro to eliminate the charge time And no I'm not going to share it... maybe someone else is feeling altruistic

[Alaskan Nobody]

Dr Baja, on 03 September 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

And then I gotta just make sure to never buy a mech with real money again.

When I started playing shortly after open beta, I had no income, but my friend who was also playing at the time (Gwilliy) threw $30 into my account - bought Yenlo, and while it is not always the most effective mech I own, it remains a favorite (decent speed + arm mounted ac20 + zombie)

Misery may not be in a good place right now, but do not give up hope!

...If it is any help think of the way Blizzard balances WoW - the whole thing just goes round and round.

Edit: I have bought Overlord Phoenix - and the reinforcements are tempting - mostly for the Griffin (thing has hardpoints similar enough to Yenlo to make me want it....) but I will admit it is well out of budget at the moment. (Overlord was to, but I found a rare WoW card I'm trying to sell... should pay off overlord at least... I'm hoping)

Edited by Shar Wolf, 03 September 2013 - 09:23 PM.

[Thorqemada]

Put an AC instead of the Gauss into it - weapons are plenty in the Mechwarrior Universe and ACs are good weapons too.
I fear an AC20 more than a Gauss...

[Barrett]

If you are bitching about DPS then you know what you are doing and I would expect more dignity/ingenuity when being handed a lemon.
I bought misery, was fun for a few rounds, then sold it and settled on a different mech.
US$30, or 29.95 if you want to be specific, buys a few beers, a game on steam sale and a month in WoW (the adult version), if you are crying about petty cash then you should ask that your allowance be raised or consider getting a debt councellor.

[Aym]

The Misery is still an EXCELLENT Hero Mech.

[Sarevos]

Dr Baja, on 03 September 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

I bought a Misery to make a build that the recent patch to gauss rifles broke. It cost me $30. I am pretty mad at this game.

I am pretty mad about it. Can't do anything about it. Just lost $30 on a bait and switch. Now I know why the mech is named Misery.

uh just rocked 2erppc and gauss still got 4 kills and 494 damage pick your shots the speed increase on the gauss makes it ping lights so nicely =3

I own the misery and i love that damn thing

Edited by Sarevos, 03 September 2013 - 09:51 PM.

[Sarevos]

scJazz, on 03 September 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

BTW: Not sure the changes to Gauss are in fact that horrible. I'm going to try tomorrow after I spend 2 minutes writing a Macro to eliminate the charge time And no I'm not going to share it... maybe someone else is feeling altruistic

no "macro" will "eliminate" charge time it will always take .75 seconds to fire there is no way around it... unless you dont want the capability to stop yourself from firing if you lose your shot in that window... I have saved so much gauss ammo by deliberating my shots and so far its actually IMPROVED my accuracy if only by a small margin

[pantherzero]

cant you just macro an arm/ charge command to go off every time the charge falls off, so its effectively always charged and ready to go ? that's how I read it anway

[Dalziel Hasek Davion]

If someone likes the game and wants to give it a good long go, then it's often worth having at least one Hero 'Mech to help reduce the CBill grind. Most veterans would suggest waiting for one of the infrequent 30% off Hero Mech sales for best value - and to consider the choice of Hero carefully because some of them are more difficult to score CBills in than others and suit particular play-styles.

Seemingly, the heavier the chassis, the better value it becomes. The Ilya Muromets, Heavy Metal, Misery are all very popular - the Death's Knell and X5 perhaps less so.

It seems odd to me that people buy a Hero just because it can mount a particular weapon in one of its hardpoints, and that defines whether they enjoy/value the 'Mech. A weapon than can fit in many 'Mechs. The Misery is a cracking chassis with some extremely potent builds and it is not defined by the GR.

I would give it a few days and reconsider your position. Try the Gauss Rifle out - and learn to love its extreme range, high speed projectile, additional hit points and new "ammo conservation" mode. If you're still not into it, then consider other builds. mechspecs.com can guide you.

By the way - if you're looking for a missile Stlker - have a look at the 3H and a 2xLRM20, 2xLRM5 build.