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[Nokie]

I really get the feeling it is my harddrive.
Its just sooo old. Anything else you guys supposed I already tried with no success.
Lets see what kind of change a new hdd is going to provide

[Aym]

Have you checked your CPU/GPU temps while the game is running? I found Throttlestop to be a great help with MWO to keep my frame-rate up during combat.

[EyeDie I]

its not your harddrive,my frankencoomputer has a 112gig harddrive thats maybe 8 years old and id guess 5400rpm.i would set vid card settings to controlled by application.also stated everywhere, the game runs on DX9 not 11 so your cpu does alot of the work your vid card should do.last weeks patch slowed my fps from 50-60 to 35-50...

do you have onboard graphics?are they on?maybe if they are and are older it could slow your vid card down....

Edited by EyeDie I, 06 September 2013 - 05:41 AM.

[MnDragon]

From what I've read Eye is on the right path. MWO is very CPU dependent so if you are running a lot of background stuff it can slow your experience down. If you have an out and out dinosaur of a HD that could be an issue too, but only if your RAM is over taxed during gameplay. Win 7 is a resource hog and you may be sending a lot of your game to the paging file in which case your HDD is slowing you down. try running the game windowed and pop up your resource manager to see what your RAM usage is like. If it maxed out, try a new HDD. Otherwise, you can help your experience by shutting down unused programs while gaming. I use Razer Gamebooster, thanks to some friends in my group. http://www.razerzone.com/gamebooster It is very effective at switching between game mode (which shuts down unneeded resources, background programs and the like) to give you as much resources as possible.

[Magitek]

I have the same issue. When nothing is going on, in training, I get 60fps. However, in matches I get 30-45 ish fps, no matter what in game graphic settings I change. I have the same graphics card.

AMD FX 8150 8core 3.6GHz
32GB RAM DDR3
GeForce GTX 660 4GB memory
2 2TB HHDs

The whole PC is less than a year old and kept very clean with a air compressor.

I just don't understand why I can get amazing settings on every other game with 60fps, but not MWO. I've tried many of the suggestions here, but nothing works so far.

Edited by Magitek, 13 September 2013 - 07:07 PM.

[Sheraf]

Nokie, on 04 September 2013 - 03:55 AM, said:

Hey people.
Iam wandering why my pc cant handle MWO. I got fps from 06-21 which makes playing this game awful.
Is my rig just to slow for it?
What kind of settings would you suggest?

My setup:

CPU: Intel i5-3470 @3.2 GHz
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX660 2GB memory
HDD: Old Samsung 5200rpm internal device
RAM: 8 GB DDR3

Running on Windows 7 64 bit.

Your HDD is the slowest in the chain. Try this, since you have 8GB of RAM, made a RAM drive around 3.5GB, copy MWO over to it, and see if your performance improves, if not we can look at something else.

Edited by Sheraf, 14 September 2013 - 11:06 AM.

[Bracchus]

I run it with a slower cpu and a gtx680 and the FPS is all over the place for me, sometimes well above 100, than down to 20.. and everywhere in between. So I guess its the optimization that sucks. A couple of patches ago it was fine, but then they did something, and it tanked the FPS and made it unstable as hell. Lets hope the DX11 patch (whenever that arrives) fixes some of the problems.

[Project Chaos]

Please let me know if I should start my own thread, I do not mean to intrude on this subject, but it is particular to what i would like to know.

I will be building a PC in a couple of weeks, while I am no noob to building PC's, I'm a noob when it comes to gaming on one. I'm under a tight budget, and was wondering if you guys think I will get playable performance on high settings?

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570k 3.4GHz (though I don't have it yet, so I may run it at higher GHz once I get it.)
GPU: Radeon HD 7870 (it's a sapphire 7870 GHz edition, 2GB, if that matters.)
RAM 8GB DDR3 1866MHz (Corsair Vengeance)
HDD: Western Digital 1TB, 7200RPM 64MB cache

Again, I am new to gaming, and just want to be able to get a nice, playable FPS. I know it is hard to determine, as some people have different experiences within the game. I was just wondering what performance is EXPECTED from this sort of build?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Why does it seem like everyone with Nvidia cards are the ones having trouble? I don't know a whole lot about the details of the game, but I'd imagine it isn't really optimized for Nvidia cards? Just based on this thread though, for all I know, AMD cards could have the same issues.

I find it very strange too that people have these problems, because I have a friend who was saving up for a GPU, and he was able to play MWO off of his built-in graphics (Intel HD 4000) and he seemed to get great performance, and that's with NO GPU at ALL.

Edited by Project Chaos, 14 September 2013 - 05:51 PM.

[Tarl Cabot]

Project Chaos, on 14 September 2013 - 05:12 PM, said:

Please let me know if I should start my own thread, I do not mean to intrude on this subject, but it is particular to what i would like to know.

I will be building a PC in a couple of weeks, while I am no noob to building PC's, I'm a noob when it comes to gaming on one. I'm under a tight budget, and was wondering if you guys think I will get playable performance on high settings?

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570k 3.4GHz (though I don't have it yet, so I may run it at higher GHz once I get it.)
GPU: Radeon HD 7870 (it's a sapphire 7870 GHz edition, 2GB, if that matters.)
RAM 8GB DDR3 1866MHz (Corsair Vengeance)
HDD: Western Digital 1TB, 7200RPM 64MB cache

I run my 3570k at 4.2ghz (can go 4.6) and tested run an ATI 7870 while I waited for other parts (built an AMD system for my nephew). Since I played in Windowed mode, FPS topped out at 60FPS but in full screen mode would top out around 140FPS.

As for issues (besides MWO ones), for a few the fans RPMs are not increasing as quickly as they should, on top of some other settings. Most computers come set with efficiency in mind. There are loads of reasons outside MWO coding.

[Project Chaos]

Tarl Cabot, on 15 September 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

I run my 3570k at 4.2ghz (can go 4.6) and tested run an ATI 7870 while I waited for other parts (built an AMD system for my nephew). Since I played in Windowed mode, FPS topped out at 60FPS but in full screen mode would top out around 140FPS.

As for issues (besides MWO ones), for a few the fans RPMs are not increasing as quickly as they should, on top of some other settings. Most computers come set with efficiency in mind. There are loads of reasons outside MWO coding.

Oh wow that's good to hear thank you. I'm just trying to get at least 60 FPS, as I used to be a console player (got REALLY sick of playing crappy nerfed games) I am really hoping to stay around that threshold for gaming on my new machine. I plan on upgrading my GPU eventually but for now the 7870 is all I can afford

You said 140FPS in fullscreen? or did you mean to type 40? I'm okay with 40, but 140 would be amazing lol.

[Tarl Cabot]

Project Chaos, on 15 September 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Oh wow that's good to hear thank you. I'm just trying to get at least 60 FPS, as I used to be a console player (got REALLY sick of playing crappy nerfed games) I am really hoping to stay around that threshold for gaming on my new machine. I plan on upgrading my GPU eventually but for now the 7870 is all I can afford

You said 140FPS in fullscreen? or did you mean to type 40? I'm okay with 40, but 140 would be amazing lol.

Nope, meant 140FPS max (before 12mech drops), but it was not a steady 140 FPS, as it would bounce around, lots, dipping at times to 50 FPS. I play in windowed mode (full windowed) cause full screen can bring its own issues in any game (alt tab). 60FPS max can also be set in the user.cfg or enable vsync. For me, running at 60fps provides a more fluid gameplay while also decreasing any heat related issues.

As for the 7870 it should last you for some time. If I had anything other than 7970 I would have given him the other card

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 16 September 2013 - 04:42 AM.

[VIPER2207]

Nokie, on 04 September 2013 - 03:55 AM, said:

My setup:

CPU: Intel i5-3470 @3.2 GHz
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX660 2GB memory
HDD: Old Samsung 5200rpm internal device
RAM: 8 GB DDR3

Running on Windows 7 64 bit.

the HDD should normaly have no impact at you FPS-rate, but as a qualified IT specialist, let me assure you, this drive is thwarting your whole system. 5200RPM today is totaly FUBAR.
i know, i just said it should have no impact, but somehow i can imagine that it does =/

do you have the possibility to test another HDD?

[TheCaptainJZ]

When my brother and I play together on the same WLAN my wireless card seems to dominate and his computer would lag. Both our systems are pretty equal and when my computer was off, he could play perfectly fine, but turn mine on, with the wireless, and suddenly it would lag like crazy for him. Can't figure it out. We have opted to play wired when we play now and it lags a little, but not as badly. It still never lags for me.

Maybe there is some kind of network thing going on with you too?

[Project Chaos]

Tarl Cabot, on 16 September 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

Nope, meant 140FPS max (before 12mech drops), but it was not a steady 140 FPS, as it would bounce around, lots, dipping at times to 50 FPS. I play in windowed mode (full windowed) cause full screen can bring its own issues in any game (alt tab). 60FPS max can also be set in the user.cfg or enable vsync. For me, running at 60fps provides a more fluid gameplay while also decreasing any heat related issues.

As for the 7870 it should last you for some time. If I had anything other than 7970 I would have given him the other card

Okay very nice, I'm just happy to hear that it CAN run at that high of FPS lol. But I will definitely be capping my FPS as I have seen from a few gamer friends, setting an FPS limit tends to make it run a lot smoother.

Also very good to hear about the 7870, I am very bad when it comes to graphics cards, and since my budget is so tight, the 7870 is right around the "butter zone" where the performance for the price is right at the peak of my budget.

Thank you very much for the info though, makes me rather confident in my build. I pretty much am building this PC for the sole purpose of playing MWO (although I will definitely be playing other games as well), as I am an uber huge fan of battletech & MWO, so it's good to hear, thanks again