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[N a p e s]

Hey guys,

Since patch and specifically because of the changes to the gauss rifle my Flame just doesn't seem to be doing as well. I still like the gauss in sniper situations but using it on a striker/flanker build just gets me into trouble.

Have the rest of you Flame pilots who were using the 4ML + GR build had to change your builds to something else? And if so what are your builds?

[Fiesognom]

Max Xl engine, 4 Ml and a LBX10

[Training Instructor]

Here's a version that has worked for me.

FLAME

Basic idea is to harass with the large lasers while moving at max speed and working to flank. The uac5 is for when you've got a good shot on someone who isn't actively trying to blow out your CT. Combined with the lasers, you're an attrition (dps) mech, moving fast enough to flank, while dealing sustained damage. The range on this variant allows you a lot of opportunities to get some shots in without exposing yourself to short range stuff.

[Toong]

I've always run 4 medium lasers, an LB10, and the biggest engine it'll fit.

[N a p e s]

I don't own an Xl360 unfortunately but I do have a XL350 which is used for the Flame. So, I'm gonna test a kind of mix of the builds presented. 2LLas and an LB10 with 3 tons of ammo.

So far seems pretty cool.

Thanks guys.

[operator0]

Although the LBX is certainly better than it's ever been, I still believe it's not quite as good as the AC.

I have run the 2ER and AC10 build with pretty good success. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c5fa7c4705d3194

But honestly, the Gauss is still the best and the one I've been running the most. It takes a lot of practice, and I still haven't mastered the mechanics yet, but I feel once I do master it, it will be dominant in this new meta.

[Byzan]

I would have thought 2xML on each arm would be better than 1xLL med lasers for me are the most versatile weapon in the game.

4x ML and an AC10

tactic would be to get into range pick a weak spot on target mech hit it with the AC10 and follow up with the 4 med lasers at the same target point.

UAC05 is a great weapon but you will end up just spraying damage everywhere rather than doing surgery with focused damage. And Jams are a pain even after the buff, yesterday I had one jame after one shot 3 times in a row.

Literally 1 shot, jam, 1shot, jam, 1shot, jam, 2 shots, jam, 3 shots, jam, 2 shots, jam game over.

I mean by that stage id basically lost

Gauss sucks now, just don't fit it. if everyone stops fitting it then they should change it back.

[N a p e s]

Its true that 2 MLas is usually and still might be a better option for the mech but I like having the range on the LLas. It might be a little less damage up close but if I'm fighting out beyond 270 meters than I feel the LLas have a significant advantage.

Part of the extra weight does make me sacrifice the AC10 in favor of the LB10 because I like to have 3 tons of ammo with these weapons.

operator0, on 08 September 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

But honestly, the Gauss is still the best and the one I've been running the most. It takes a lot of practice, and I still haven't mastered the mechanics yet, but I feel once I do master it, it will be dominant in this new meta.

You're probably right that I should just stick to this and practice since the gauss is a very powerful and heat free weapon. Definitely a lot of advantages.

[Training Instructor]

My experience is that the lb10x is pretty effective at medium and short ranges, and really nice for hitting faster mechs, or doing serious damage to exposed internals. When it comes to killing assaults and heavies though, the uac5 does a better job.

Just my opinion though. I like to keep the dragon to 350+ meters, preferably 400+. My opponents stand a better chance of finding a closer victim, or won't have the ranged firepower to affect me as much.

[Roughneck45]

Nope, still using the Gauss and 4mlas. I also use an SRM 6 with an XL300.

Honestly, using the gauss on the Flame was the easiest adjustment out of all my gauss mechs. The fact that it is the only long range weapon mounted high on the shoulder, I dunno, just seemed intuitive.

[N a p e s]

Roughneck45, on 09 September 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

Nope, still using the Gauss and 4mlas. I also use an SRM 6 with an XL300.

Honestly, using the gauss on the Flame was the easiest adjustment out of all my gauss mechs. The fact that it is the only long range weapon mounted high on the shoulder, I dunno, just seemed intuitive.

I guess you just stay farther from the brawl while taking potshots at targets and using the MLas only for defense?

[Ryokens leap]

Wow we're doing this again? OP do a forum search, there's about 20 pages of Flame builds compiled.

[Reverendk]

Just build the champion dragon.

Gauss Rifle
2 large lasers
3 tons of gauss ammo
1 heatsink
300xl engine

Get up in people's face and let loose like Devestatin' Dave.
People will be so off balance from your close range gauss shots destroying both the meta and their world view that they won't be able to stop you from slotting all sorts of floppies.

Unleash your inner turntable slave

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f1b9639884db517

[N a p e s]

Ryokens leap, on 09 September 2013 - 08:20 AM, said:

Wow we're doing this again? OP do a forum search, there's about 20 pages of Flame builds compiled.

Well the first part of the question relates to people who use a specific build and if they need to modify their builds given the changes to a specific weapon. So, sure I'm also asking for builds but its kind of secondary.

Reverendk, on 09 September 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

Just build the champion dragon.

Gauss Rifle
2 large lasers
3 tons of gauss ammo
1 heatsink
300xl engine

Get up in people's face and let loose like Devestatin' Dave.
People will be so off balance from your close range gauss shots destroying both the meta and their world view that they won't be able to stop you from slotting all sorts of floppies.

Unleash your inner turntable slave

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f1b9639884db517

This would probably be a lot of fun. Just slower than how I usually run the Flame.

[Reverendk]

Napes339, on 09 September 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

This would probably be a lot of fun. Just slower than how I usually run the Flame.

Fast mech is for baby man!
95kph is for drunk toddler not glorious pilot of mech
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1c1a1b6d3184fbc
Mech is fine!

[Roughneck45]

Napes339, on 09 September 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

I guess you just stay farther from the brawl while taking potshots at targets and using the MLas only for defense?

I'll brawl with it and snipe. It's more about getting as much damage in before they can react. Get an alpha off, duck for cover or stay on their flank, rinse repeat.

I just don't like taking mechs that can't reach out and touch someone for decent damage. The gauss keeps it versatile.

Edited by Roughneck45, 09 September 2013 - 09:46 AM.