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[Hans Von Lohman]

It has 15 tubes on the first launcher, and then it has 10 on the second launcher.

[RickySpanish]

That looks absolutely boss, I shall spring for one once they're available for C-Bills. Why not MC? Well, why the **** would I chuck $20 down the drain when I could buy A Machine For Pigs for the exact same price? Silly PGI.

[Carrioncrows]

Kinda figuring out the missile hardpoints in the arms are not the best for SRM's.

[Royalewithcheese]

Carrioncrows, on 10 September 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Kinda figuring out the missile hardpoints in the arms are not the best for SRM's.

How so? Does it have that Jagermech problem where they fire at a weird angle?

[Carrioncrows]

The tubes are spaced farther apart than most conventional SRM tube launchers, so you end up getting quite a big spread. And I do mean BIG.

I'm not a huge fan of Artemis on my SRM's and don't like having to equip it to hit things with my Orion.

[Royalewithcheese]

Carrioncrows, on 10 September 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

The tubes are spaced farther apart than most conventional SRM tube launchers, so you end up getting quite a big spread. And I do mean BIG.

I'm not a huge fan of Artemis on my SRM's and don't like having to equip it to hit things with my Orion.

Good to know - thanks!

[Jin Ma]

Carrioncrows, on 10 September 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

The tubes are spaced farther apart than most conventional SRM tube launchers, so you end up getting quite a big spread. And I do mean BIG.

I'm not a huge fan of Artemis on my SRM's and don't like having to equip it to hit things with my Orion.

huh and i thought spread was standardized

[Carrioncrows]

Jin Ma, on 10 September 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

huh and i thought spread was standardized

Of course not. It's why some mechs are better at SRM's than others.

For instance the Catapult C4 is notoriously bad with SRM's. Why? Because it has 20 launch tubes and seemly launches those SRM's from the 4 corners and 2 in the middle. It starts at maximum spread for basically all 6 missiles with only the 2 in the mid hitting where you want. So 4 missiles at max spread and 2 at normal.

Just so we understand each other the actual Missile spread size isn't any bigger or smaller on any mechs. It's just that depending on your launcher more missles start at maximum spread as oppossed to more missles being in a tigher spread.

Lets take the Kintaro with an SRM6.

They are tight and compact that launch missiles where you only get 2 missiles at maximum spread and 4 normal ones in the middle.

The spread size is the same, but more missiles are deviated to the middle as opposed to the C4 where most of the missiles are deviated to the outside.

See what I am saying?

I don't much like Artemis on SRM's I think it is a major waste and I resent the whole dumbfire SRM's. But that being said there are cases where it helps improve your spread by normalizing it a bit which translates into more missiles in less locations. Most mechs don't need it, but in the case of the Orion with it's Missile hands it does.

Now my favorite SRM tube launcher is hands down the X5.

I think the X5 missile tubes are amazing and I run SRM6's in mine and though most people don't like having their SRM's come out in waves I absolutely love it!. Why? Because they have the same spread but both missiles are dead center allowing me to fire them almost like rapid fire autocannons hitting the same location with all 12 missiles.

Another reason why the Pretty Baby is pretty bad. The SRM4's in the arm doesn't need Artemis. With SRM4's you typically get 3 mid and 1 far outside straggler, but the Pretty baby arm keeps most of those pretty packed in and then followed up by 2 more if you have a SRM6 in there. But put a SRM in the torso where it has a 15 tube and it gets pretty bad with 2-3 stragglers outside with the rest normalized. So you are forced to pay 2 tons and slots on Artemis on the arm (which is fine) to just normalize the torso.

See how i am not a fan of Artemis.

Food for thought.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 10 September 2013 - 08:37 PM.

[Shiro Matsumoto]

Looks good. I actually liked the "drum arm" of the original art, and felt it was missing (on the Protector)

Also, as you see the texture has its detailed and dented look back.. so only the Protector had the highly-polished Parade look.

[GizmoGecko]

Anyone able to screenshot 2 PPC's in a single arm? I imagine that'd look pretty fearsome

[CDLord HHGD]

Seeing the missiles in the arm gives me hope for an incoming Zeus.... I know it's thin, but damn would that look good....

[Effectz]

A team mate of mine named it Edward Missile Hands.

[Skunk Wolf]

Silly mech, missile slots are for SRM's!

Arm of Macross Missile Massacre.

[verybad]

cdlord, on 11 September 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

Seeing the missiles in the arm gives me hope for an incoming Zeus.... I know it's thin, but damn would that look good....

Though [rpg] I don't like the Steiners[/rpg], they do need their Iconic mech Makes more sense than them getting the Commando (which is also iconic for them however)

[627]

not much to see with 2 ppcs:



But i'd like to see the VA with 4 missile slots... how many tubes are there per hardpoint?

[Hans Von Lohman]

Quad SRM-6's get you into the Ghost Heat issue (SRM-6 is fine up to 3 of them).

However, it isn't that noticeable. An SRM-6 makes 4 heat. The math says when you fire 4 of them you get an extra 1.3 heat. So instead of making 16 heat points, you actually make 17.3 heat with a quad launch.

I tried the build, and didn't notice that I was actually making a bit more heat than normal. You actually make more heat by moving at full throttle than that.

[Hans Von Lohman]

Is it true that the Orion-M center torso "narc" port actually can be a full 6 tube SRM-6?

Pictures of that?

[GizmoGecko]

627, on 11 September 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

not much to see with 2 ppcs:



But i'd like to see the VA with 4 missile slots... how many tubes are there per hardpoint?

The second PPC looks rather feeble compared, confused me why they have the lenses at different sizes; I'd love to have four GIANT cannons on the arms, to obviously make up for my lack in the NARC department...

The first LRM slot only goes up to 15 tubes but the second slot only goes up to 10 tubes.

With SRMs, you can get 12 tubes on each arm so they all fire simultaneously.

Edited by GizmoGecko, 11 September 2013 - 01:33 PM.