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Time For A Hero Spider Or Jenner


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#1 Felio

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 12:06 PM

I know it takes just as many staff hours to make a light mech as it does to make an assault, and you sell assaults for more than 3 times as much... but there needs to be some equity here.

I like the Death's Knell, but I needs me some jump jets.

#2 Firewuff

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:23 PM

should have got the Sarah jenner and supported a good cause ;-)

#3 Strum Wealh

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:43 PM

Between the Founders' Jenner and the Sarah's 'Mech Jenner, it will likely be quite some time before there is a "proper" Hero Jenner.

With regard to Hero Spiders, some possibilities include:
  • Gwndolyn Snedicor - member of the Eridani Light Horse's 151st Dark Horse regiment, holding the rank of Lieutenant as of 3039 (TRO 3039, pg. 106)
  • Rhonda Stillston - CO of the Addicks Draconis March Militia's Recon Company, holding the rank of Captain as of 3039 (TRO 3039, pg. 106)
  • Niko Vester - member of the Ninth (and later, Fourth) Pesht Regulars, holding the rank of Chu-i (equivalent to "Lieutenant") as of 3050 (TRO 3050U, pg. 20)
Thoughts?

#4 HammerSwarm

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:01 AM

I support a hero spider, how would the variant be different from current variants without being OP and thus P2W?

Some things I ruled out: missiles, more hard points, and a higher engine cap.

So I came up with this

RA: 1 energy
RT: AMS
CT: 2 ballistic
H:
LT:
LA: 1 energy

8 Jumpjets

That is a good mix of what other spiders have to offer, with a more different but not over powered hardpoint layout. No more jump jets than the similarly armed K and V variants.

#5 Strum Wealh

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:01 AM

View PostHammerSwarm, on 11 September 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

I support a hero spider, how would the variant be different from current variants without being OP and thus P2W?

Some things I ruled out: missiles, more hard points, and a higher engine cap.

So I came up with this

RA: 1 energy
RT: AMS
CT: 2 ballistic
H:
LT:
LA: 1 energy

8 Jumpjets

That is a good mix of what other spiders have to offer, with a more different but not over powered hardpoint layout. No more jump jets than the similarly armed K and V variants.

I would disagree that missiles should necessarily be ruled out.
Note how the X-5 (the Cicada Hero 'Mech) is the only variant of the Cicada chassis in MWO to mount missiles, and how none of the canonical Cicada variants currently (as of this writing) listed on Sarna.net mount missiles.

As an alternative (and slight modification) to HammerSwarm's proposal:
  • Internal Structure: Standard
  • Engine: 240 XL
  • Jump Jets: x6 Class V (maximum capacity of 6)
  • Heat Sinks: x10 SHS (x1 in HD)
  • Armor: Standard (7.00 tons, 210 armor pts)
  • Armament: x1 Medium Laser (CT), x2 Machine Guns (LA, RA; 1 ton of ammunition in LT), x1 SRM-2 (CT; 1 ton of ammunition in RT)
  • Hardpoint layout: x1 Energy (CT), x2 Ballistic (LA, RA), x1 Missile (CT), x1 AMS (LT)
  • Arm Pitch: 20 degrees
  • Arm Twist: 30 degrees
  • Torso Pitch: 30 degrees
  • Torso Twist: 120 degrees
  • Module Slots: 2
NOTE 1: The missile hardpoint is horizontally-centered relative to the torso and is limited to two tubes (arranged horizontally below the (horizontally-centered relative to the torso) laser) and is protected by an upward-swinging missile door system similar to that seen on the Catapult.

NOTE 2: The torso pitch and twist values have each been increased by 10 degrees, while the arm pitch and twist values have each been decreased by 10 degrees.

Thoughts?

#6 Abaddun

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:12 AM

Call me a psycho, but I am entertaining the idea of a spider with a single laser hardpoint in the torso, and 16-20 jump jet slots, just for the laughs.

#7 Epic Fail

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:39 AM

Hero Spider has my vote, We already have the Sarah Jenner and the founders for those of us.

#8 Green Mamba

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:57 AM

Until they fix the Spider's Hitbox everyone of them is a "Hero" Mech

#9 Solomon Ward

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:54 PM

I want the Spider-5V but with the Energy Hardpoints moved to the the arms.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:39 PM

All Spiders are by default Hero's!
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#11 focuspark

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:04 PM

I have a hero Jenner... cheapest of the hero mechs even AND it was honestly the only one which could rightly try and wear the name "hero".

#12 Felio

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:19 PM

View PostFirewuff, on 10 September 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

should have got the Sarah jenner and supported a good cause ;-)

View Postfocuspark, on 11 September 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

I have a hero Jenner... cheapest of the hero mechs even AND it was honestly the only one which could rightly try and wear the name "hero".

View PostEpic Fail, on 11 September 2013 - 10:39 AM, said:

Hero Spider has my vote, We already have the Sarah Jenner and the founders for those of us.


I do have Sarah's Jenner, and I love it. But it's a champion mech, or at least it has the 10% perk that champion mechs do. Really it's a unique type, (S), which I assume is for Sarah. :)

Hero mechs have the 30% C-bill bonus. Founders mechs have a 25% C-bill bonus, but they are obviously no longer for sale.





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