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#1 Destructicus

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:06 AM

Think about it
Why else would the trial mechs for this month all be champs?
They know stock builds are garbage and know reviewers won't dish out money on game like this
This 'Operation 24' is nothing more than an attempt for PGI to have people scrambling to play as many games as possible so they can say that the numbers are on their side.
This fluff doesn't distract from the fact nothing launched today.
Of course, when the reviews come back and they're mostly negative, PGI will dismiss them, throwing the "on an island" spiel, saying that reviewers aren't their target demographic.
The real shame here is that "launching" an unfinished game is going to do nothing but hurt a game I really wanted to see succeed.
Mechwarrior deserved so much more than this.
It's been real and it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:11 AM

Say hello to the marketing team

#3 Audlyn

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:15 AM

I don't really care. Just because it is a free game. A free game could be total {Scrap}, but still worth it for the free aspect.
Plus, I love this game. I guess I'm just easy to please.
Oh, and I'm even a founder...fancy that.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:19 AM

I agree with OP.

#5 Odins Fist

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:20 AM

View PostAudlyn, on 17 September 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

I don't really care.


Yeah you do, just trying to act like you don't... :P

#6 Mechteric

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:22 AM

like many F2P/MMO games, the release is hard, where they can prove themselves is during the next year. If they can succeed over the next year perhaps they'll get some better "re-reviews"

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:22 AM

View PostDestructicus, on 17 September 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

Think about it
Why else would the trial mechs for this month all be champs?
They know stock builds are garbage and know reviewers won't dish out money on game like this
This 'Operation 24' is nothing more than an attempt for PGI to have people scrambling to play as many games as possible so they can say that the numbers are on their side.
This fluff doesn't distract from the fact nothing launched today.
Of course, when the reviews come back and they're mostly negative, PGI will dismiss them, throwing the "on an island" spiel, saying that reviewers aren't their target demographic.
The real shame here is that "launching" an unfinished game is going to do nothing but hurt a game I really wanted to see succeed.
Mechwarrior deserved so much more than this.
It's been real and it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun.



People bitched about the trial mechs sucking, and now they are above the line of suck and you ***** about that.
Players have been asking for a new event, and now we have one. Yet you complain.

Your negativity will be as detrimental, if not more so, to this game than your dubious opinion of PGI's development and marketing plans. Get bent and retreat to your private TS server. Save the whining for your Merc. Corps.

#8 Destructicus

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:24 AM

View PostAudlyn, on 17 September 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

I don't really care. Just because it is a free game. A free game could be total {Scrap}, but still worth it for the free aspect.
Plus, I love this game. I guess I'm just easy to please.
Oh, and I'm even a founder...fancy that.

I didn't know the founder's badge meant you opinion means more than mine, I'll keep that in mind next time.

View PostCapnFaiiboat, on 17 September 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:



People bitched about the trial mechs sucking, and now they are above the line of suck and you ***** about that.
Players have been asking for a new event, and now we have one. Yet you complain.

Your negativity will be as detrimental, if not more so, to this game than your dubious opinion of PGI's development and marketing plans. Get bent and retreat to your private TS server. Save the whining for your Merc. Corps.

I'm not complaining because of the things they've done, I'm complain because of why they have done them, it's a lack of integrity.
Polishing a **** doesn't get rid of the smell.

#9 AntiCitizenJuan

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:24 AM

The game deserves better scores than it is being given.

The game should get a C+, not an F-

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostCapnFaiiboat, on 17 September 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:



People bitched about the trial mechs sucking, and now they are above the line of suck and you ***** about that.
Players have been asking for a new event, and now we have one. Yet you complain.

Your negativity will be as detrimental, if not more so, to this game than your dubious opinion of PGI's development and marketing plans. Get bent and retreat to your private TS server. Save the whining for your Merc. Corps.

They sucked on day one and got changed launch day.... go figure....
odd that the new event is exactly designed to fluff out launch day numbers.... again go figure....
The OP call it dead on and its people like you that will keep feeding PGI cash and prolong this games death.

Edited by Tombstoner, 17 September 2013 - 11:27 AM.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:28 AM

Complaining about the why is just as bad, because you have inserted your suppositions on their motivations. Get some hard facts on the "why" instead of assuming. Maybe they wanted to make sure all of the beta players would have a good time with the event. Maybe they listened about the trial mechs sucking and changed their methodology. Besides you know what happens when you "assume".

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:31 AM

View PostTombstoner, on 17 September 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

They sucked on day one and got changed launch day.... go figure....
odd that the new event is exactly designed to fluff out launch day numbers.... again go figure....
The OP call it dead on and its people like you that will keep feeding PGI cash and prolong this games death.

I find your "feeding PGI" comment ironic since you have a founders tag. At least i put money into an existing product that I do enjoy playing, instead of vaporware up front. I don't need you to tell me what I should like and what to spend money on. You sir are a hypocrite! Now go play Hawken then see if this game is really that bad.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:40 AM

So far it hasn't been nice.

http://www.metacriti...hwarrior-online

#14 Tombstoner

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostCapnFaiiboat, on 17 September 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

I find your "feeding PGI" comment ironic since you have a founders tag. At least i put money into an existing product that I do enjoy playing, instead of vaporware up front. I don't need you to tell me what I should like and what to spend money on. You sir are a hypocrite! Now go play Hawken then see if this game is really that bad.

My founders was purchased day one it was offered.... when PGI had a good rep and i be-leaved in them. I got suckered.
got my moneys worth from it, but this is NOT the game i founded... in fact i think i will go try some Hawken....

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostTombstoner, on 17 September 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

My founders was purchased day one it was offered.... when PGI had a good rep and i be-leaved in them. I got suckered.
got my moneys worth from it, but this is NOT the game i founded... in fact i think i will go try some Hawken....


At it's core, it still is what you and I founded. You are just looking too hard at the external features

#16 Tombstoner

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:36 AM

View PostSteve Varayis, on 17 September 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:


At it's core, it still is what you and I founded. You are just looking too hard at the external features

No i live and breath the internals and thats whats killing me. The potential that exists is epic but in the hand of this dev team is so pain full. i have been here playing for 2 years posting feedback and as things unfolded I can see how things deviated and degraded from the PRS. this game is f'ing counter strike... cause that's the dev teams background. a FPS mod called nakatomi plaza that got a cease and desist order, then duke nukem and some other stuff.

Roll warfare..... should have incorporated 3pv and ya know what people would have been a bit more accepting.
The way game stats evolved and balance is conducted is fubar. That is my professional opinion. i happen to be one of the few people on this forum who work in a development field. granted its not gaming, but my personal life has 30+ years of BT and other game systems makes up for that. I do optimizations on multi factor systems for a living. What I have seen PGI craft every patch was warned and discussed in the first 2 months of closed beta.

A lot of frustration on theses forums if the lack of feed back and interaction PGI has been treating us like Idiots and cash pinatas... they keep to close to TT in some ways but toss out the book in others that lead to predictable out comes that we warned them about and we got ignored.

Ghost heat and now gauss being turned into a sniper weapon was the end for me.... Clear proof to me, that the people involved in game mechanic design dont have a clue and playing whack a moll as a result.

it not a question of make this game my way or else. The game can be fun, but its never going to live up to what i see as its potential and that is a rival to eve.

PGI created this forum of hate one day at a time.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:08 AM

dude, they are amateurs, that want to live up and be the big guys. That's how I see it at least



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