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[ColourfulConfetti]

Wow, thanks all for all your opinions and feedback! It is very good to know where the community stands with this, I hope this will help PGI make amends somehow with the players that feel alienated.

[Rhaythe]

GalaxyBluestar, on 18 September 2013 - 03:58 AM, said:

we now enter an era of white knight patting themselves on the back as the game slowly bleeds to death.

Do disgruntled players like you even play the game anymore? Or are you content to merely spouting inane commentary like that over the forums? Hate to break it to you, but I seriously doubt whatever crisis you see the game being enthralled in currently is going to be sufficient to bleed it to death.

[ColourfulConfetti]

GalaxyBluestar, on 18 September 2013 - 03:58 AM, said:

poll is invalid. those who would've voted for the no options are indeed so fed up they don't attend anymore.

we now enter an era of white knight patting themselves on the back as the game slowly bleeds to death.

You'd be surprised with the amount of forum goers that talk but don't actually play anymore. On top of that, there are quite a few players on the fringe of quitting as is evidenced by the abysmal meta critic scores. The poll was not meant to be an definite item to gather statistics, I merely wanted to know the forums sentiment. Nobody is "white knighting" if you are referring to those who said yes, they are merely willing to forget and forgive, so your post is largely invalid really.

Edited by PalmaRoma, 18 September 2013 - 04:12 AM.

[Dracol]

I love playing the game. As for the people saying "PGI said they were making x but instead we got y" and then complaining about it always makes me think of the Auto shows and concept cars.

The concept cars shown at auto shows seem never to make it onto the road. The car makers always make significant changes to a model before final release. No matter how much I would prefer the concept car, I accept reality that things change over the course of development for a large number of reasons.

I judge the final product on what it is, not what I imagine what it could be nor what it would be in an ideal world. And judging MWO by that criteria, it's a very enjoyable game for me that keeps me dropping almost every night.

[GalaxyBluestar]

PalmaRoma, on 18 September 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

Wow, thanks all for all your opinions and feedback! It is very good to know where the community stands with this, I hope this will help PGI make amends somehow with the players that feel alienated.

this is just as bad as the 3pv uber retention rate after a week gag. seriously this poll will be lucky to see a couple of hundred votes.

a year ago it would've been in the thousands. intrest for this game positive or negative is waining.

still if you want to continue *********** whilst this place sinks go right ahead. i've got better things to do with my time anyways so don't worry the argument ends here.

just a shame you guys can't see how things have become so bleak over the year. the game's breaking up, still go ahead and enjoy it while you can. sorry for being trollish but really this sort of stuff bears nothing on anything anymore.

[Farix]

I see yet another coat rack for the discontent. And completely off topic for the forum to boot.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

GalaxyBluestar, on 18 September 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

this is just as bad as the 3pv uber retention rate after a week gag. seriously this poll will be lucky to see a couple of hundred votes.

a year ago it would've been in the thousands. intrest for this game positive or negative is waining.

still if you want to continue *********** whilst this place sinks go right ahead. i've got better things to do with my time anyways so don't worry the argument ends here.

just a shame you guys can't see how things have become so bleak over the year. the game's breaking up, still go ahead and enjoy it while you can. sorry for being trollish but really this sort of stuff bears nothing on anything anymore.

"better things to do" yet you are still here? BWWWWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH!
Not everyone has been playing a year.
Not everyone is as jaded as you
Go make your own mech game if you can do better, if you cant S**U!

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 September 2013 - 04:25 AM.

[ColourfulConfetti]

GalaxyBluestar, on 18 September 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

this is just as bad as the 3pv uber retention rate after a week gag. seriously this poll will be lucky to see a couple of hundred votes.

a year ago it would've been in the thousands. intrest for this game positive or negative is waining.

still if you want to continue *********** whilst this place sinks go right ahead. i've got better things to do with my time anyways so don't worry the argument ends here.

just a shame you guys can't see how things have become so bleak over the year. the game's breaking up, still go ahead and enjoy it while you can. sorry for being trollish but really this sort of stuff bears nothing on anything anymore.

Who cares if it only sees 100 votes? If I can reach out to some of the community and gather their sentiment, I can still get some people to put behind the mistakes of PGI and be supporting of helping the game. The only thing this poll is doing is helping other players look past the PGI mistakes and move on or releasing what bothers them over the game so that PGI may be able to address some of the issues better. You can claim all you want that MWO is sinking, doesn't make it true, but if you want to paint a bleak outlook cause you felt wronged by PGI go right ahead. You can keep your bleak attitude, and I can respect you view, but acting like it is established fact is just rather silly.

[AC]

This is a bias poll! If you read the launch thread most of the people in there are NOT founders. It isn't the founders that are upset about the direction of the game, it is the games community as a whole. I am sick of everything being laid on the shoulders of the founders.

Edited by AC, 18 September 2013 - 04:30 AM.

[ColourfulConfetti]

AC, on 18 September 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:

This is a bias poll! If you read the launch thread most of the people in there are NOT founders. It isn't the founders that are upset about the direction of the game, it is the games community as a whole.

It was not my intent to make it biased, I just ran with what most people stated as reason for hating PGI. I had placed the "other" option for that reason.

[Killhunger]

I voted other, and this is why. At the current stage I am tired of the game. I find it very difficult to bring myself to want to play it. however, I am a founder and have been playing the game since early closed beta.

I literally played the **** out of this game. I don't feel I deserve a refund for failed promises. (I can see how some feel that way however) When I think about the money spent exacty $120 and no more after the founders. I got a shitload of fun out of this game.

I love the game for the fun I have had. I am upset that it isn't more than what it is at this stage giving me something more to experience to want to keep playing.

For me to wipe the slate clean, I think PGI should make some changes and take some steps.

Some founders think we need something given to us. Maybe an apology that the game is not where it should be based on the promises that they made when they put in the money. (Good enough)

A serious promise to improve the communication level with the community. Some detailed plans on how they can achieve that.

The vocal community is pissed. If I were PGI I would put in some serious steps to try to make that right. Let us know why they are having trouble getting the features going. Telling us nothing just makes us stew and get irritated. Hire a PR firm, or pick the person who is a open critic of this game and give him some information and some resources to find out what would turn him around. Imagine if the community had the kind of communication level that games like Star Citizen has. We would sell this game for them. As a business you treat your customers well and they will come back. They will tell their friends and they will come also. At this stage they need to do something drastic to help turn that sentiment around. I invite them to try.

I don't expect to have a literal say in what they do. I just want to hear what exactly they are doing.

This damn game has so much potential, despite tweaking and balancing issues it looks and plays amazingly.... 2 modes, team deathmatch...over and over and over gets old. Add ANYTHING to keep us interested more modes, historical battles, stock mechs, organized leagues, hell I'd play some co-op PVE content, give us a PVE challenge mission builder. There is so much that they could do with the assets they have created.

I'd wipe the slate clean and try to be more active if they did some of these things. But some real actual communication would need to be done. I want to love this game again.

- Kill

Edited by Killhunger, 18 September 2013 - 04:53 AM.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

AC, on 18 September 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:

This is a bias poll! If you read the launch thread most of the people in there are NOT founders. It isn't the founders that are upset about the direction of the game, it is the games community as a whole. I am sick of everything being laid on the shoulders of the founders.

says a founder with an alt account.....

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 September 2013 - 04:31 AM.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Killhunger, on 18 September 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

I voted other, and this is why. At the current stage I am tired of the game. I find it very difficult to bring myself to want to play it. however, I am a founder and have been playing the game since early closed beta.

I literally played the **** out of this game. I don't feel I deserve a refund for failed promises. (I can see how some feel that way however) When I think about the money spent exacty $120 and no more after the founders. I got a shitload of fun out of this game.

I love the game for the fun I have had. I am upset that it isn't more than what it is at thi stage giving me something more to experience to want to keep playing.

For me to wipe the slate clean, I think PGI should make some changes and take some steps.

The founders all think we need something given to us. Maybe an apology that the game is not where it should be based on the promises that they made when we put in our money. (Good enough for me)

A serious promise to improve the communication level with the community. Some detailed plans on how they can achieve that.

The vocal community is pissed. If I were PGI I would put in some serious steps to try to make that right. Let us know why they are having trouble getting the features going. Telling us nothing just makes us stew and get irritated. Hire a PR firm, or pick the person who is a open critic of this game and give him some information and some resources to find out what would turn him around. Imagine if the community had the kind of communication level that games like Star Citizen has. We would sell this game for them. As a business you treat your customers well and they will come back. They will tell their friends and they will come also. At this stage they need to do something drastic to help turn that sentiment around. I invite them to try.

I don't expect to have a literal say in what they do. I just want to hear what exactly they are doing.

This damn game has so much potential, despite tweaking and balancing issues it looks and plays amazingly.... 2 modes, team deathmatch...over and over and over gets old. Add ANYTHING to keep us interested more modes, historical battles, stock mechs, organized leagues, hell I'd play some co-op PVE content, give us a PVE challenge mission builder. There is so much that they could do with the assets they have created.

I'd wipe the slate clean and try to be more active if they did some of these things. But some real actual communication would need to be done. I want to love this game again.

- Kill

you got what was promised, mech, premium time and your name in the credits.... You don't deserve anything else.

No other game communicates like you people think they should..... NO OTHER GAME!

Get off you high horse and take your grand kids fishing or something.

[Rhaythe]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 September 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

you got what was promised, mech, premium time and your name in the credits.... You don't deserve anything else.

No other game communicates like you people think they should..... NO OTHER GAME!

Get off you high horse and take your grand kids fishing or something.

He actually has some decent points. Yes, the game can use some more variety. But for people to call the game a "failure" is just petulant (not saying either of you said that; just keeping in-line with the topic).

That said, some of Killhunger's ideas are quite enthralling. I love the idea of historical battles and PvE.

[Enigmos]

Killhunger, on 18 September 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

The founders all think we need something given to us. Maybe an apology that the game is not where it should be based on the promises that they made when we put in our money. (Good enough for me)

You do not speak for all Founders. I am enjoying the game even in PUG drops. If you dezgra would stop your belly-aching the developers might get some meaningful work done instead of taking all this time to try and figure out what is wrong with everything you guys cry about. As soon as they make the changes you demand (as if you were speaking for everyone you aren't) you start weeping and moaning all over again about some other thing. Let them build the game.

Edited by OriginalTibs, 18 September 2013 - 05:30 AM.

[Killhunger]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 September 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

you got what was promised, mech, premium time and your name in the credits.... You don't deserve anything else.

No other game communicates like you people think they should..... NO OTHER GAME!

Get off you high horse and take your grand kids fishing or something.

My whole post..and you pick on the single line about founders? I don't feel like I am owed anything really. I never once considered a refund. As I said, I played the **** out of this game. How about commenting on the rest of the post, you obviously have some kind of beef with founders.

- Kill

[Killhunger]

OriginalTibs, on 18 September 2013 - 04:38 AM, said:

You do not speak for all Founders. I am enjoying the game even in PUG drops. If you whiners would stop your belly-aching the developers might get some meaningful work done instead of taking all this time to try and figure out what is wrong with everything you guys cry about. As soon as they make the changes you demand (as if you were speaking for everyone you aren't) you start weeping and moaning all over again about some other thing. Let them build the game.

I wasn't really including myself in the group your are referring to based on my earlier statement. But I did say All. (I will edit that.)

As stated here:

"I literally played the **** out of this game. I don't feel I deserve a refund for failed promises. (I can see how some feel that way however) When I think about the money spent exacty $120 and no more after the founders. I got a shitload of fun out of this game."

I was mostly addressing the issues that some have.

My main issue is there isn't enough for me to play. Content and game modes etc. I thought my post was constructive and on topic.

- Kill

[Rhaythe]

Killhunger, on 18 September 2013 - 04:50 AM, said:

My main issue is there isn't enough for me to play. Content and game modes etc. I thought my post was constructive and on topic.

It was. And as I mentioned, I'm even on board with some of your content ideas. Thankfully PGI did say there's more on the way insofar as game modes. It's disappointing that all we have for release is Assault and Conquest, but at least there's more in the pipe.

[Joseph Mallan]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 September 2013 - 03:52 AM, said:

because they have an addiction and are not healthy (mentally) people.



make your own mech game if you can do better. Oh you cant you just QQ and rage talk banthapoodoo and still play. (see above) Do you give your grand kids enough candy?

No sir. I am quoting ISO mantra that all companies have to follow to become ISO certified. I follow those words every day at work. I personally follow those words in my daily life and have for well on to 40 of my 47 years.

I do not have Grand Kids ...yet, but I am my Nieces & Nephews favorite Uncle.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 18 September 2013 - 04:52 AM.

[The Cheese]

Killhunger, on 18 September 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

The founders all think we need something given to us.

Not at all. I'm reasonably happy with the game that I've played for the money I've spent.

I'm not playing much anymore because I feel like I've done all there is to do. It's all stick, no carrot nowadays.

There's simply too many other great games out there to try out to be spending my time doing the same thing over and over again without any greater objective.