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[Alaskan Nobody]

Arnold J Rimmer, on 19 September 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Gotta call you out there, Koniving - LL beam duration is 1.00 second, same as the ML. The rest is spot on though, as always.

I believe he was counting the cooldown with that - which does put the poor LL as the slowest weapon in the game... though has potential for the shoot-and-twist players...

[Bront]

Ronan, on 19 September 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

I also ran an Awesome for a while with 2 x LPL and 2 x LRM15. I don't remember if I had artemis or not. On paper the build should have sucked. In practice I had great damage output and a high KDR. And _I_ found it entertaining because I had two different types of weapons to shoot.

That's a very good long range harassment build that combines long range support with direct fire. I do it in my stalker and it's very effective.

[Void Angel]

Arnold J Rimmer, on 19 September 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Gotta call you out there, Koniving - LL beam duration is 1.00 second, same as the ML. The rest is spot on though, as always.

He's referring to the total cycle time, not beam duration. =) One of the problems with the Large Laser especially is that it is just... so... slow.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Void Angel, on 19 September 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

He's referring to the total cycle time, not beam duration. =) One of the problems with the Large Laser especially is that it is just... so... slow.

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...Maybe

[Koniving]

Arnold J Rimmer, on 19 September 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Gotta call you out there, Koniving - LL beam duration is 1.00 second, same as the ML. The rest is spot on though, as always.

Beam duration. Did you forget cooldown?

ML: Beam duration 1 second. Cooldown 3 seconds. Total time between actual shots = 4 seconds.
Most weapons: 4 seconds between shots.
LL: Beam duration: 1 second. Cooldown: 3.25 seconds. Total time between actual shots = 4.25 seconds.

[Koniving]

Shar Wolf, on 19 September 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

I believe he was counting the cooldown with that - which does put the poor LL as the slowest weapon in the game... though has potential for the shoot-and-twist players...

Gauss is now the slowest direct fire (4 second recycle + 0.75 second charge up). (I don't count SRMs as direct-fire as a side note.)

Fun firing rate facts from MW:LL...

Spoiler

Gauss Rifle recycle time is 6 seconds.
PPC recycle time is 7 seconds.
One example of the several AC/5s on MW:LL fires 1 damage shots, dealing 1 shot for 1 damage every 0.4 seconds, totaling 5 damage in 2 seconds. There's a few DIFFERENT AC/5s in MW:LL. Fun!
(MWO's AC/5 fires once every 1.50 seconds.)
Small lasers (or SPL?) fire like slow machine guns, dealing around 3 damage every 3 seconds (i.e. they do damage at the exact same rate they do in MWO, but are rapidly fired) and just look cooler.

So what's the difference and why can MW:LL get away with half armor? Simple! Lots of DPS-style weapons, and all concentrated damage weapons [PPC and Gauss Rifle] are very slow firing.
Thought that was interesting.

Edited by Koniving, 19 September 2013 - 02:16 PM.

[Arnold J Rimmer]

Oops, my bad. Misunderstood.