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Petition: Add Back Rearm For Balance


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#1 CrazyWorm9

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:04 AM

Why add rearm back? 3 reasons for balance purposes.

1. Tired of seeing 90% of mechs LRM5 spamming on chainfire 1250+ LRMs and not getting a chance to fight back.

2. Tired of Heavy Ballistic snipers same thing spamming ammo down range till you die or they exaust all 7-8 tons of ammo they have

3 Would like to use up my axcess ammo or sell it off if im not using it.

Also would like to point out with rearm only would bring some order to this game as rewards for all that ammo spam should come at a risk, and if you don't use all the ammo then good you don't need to buy much more to top off then right. Not asking for much just the rearm aspect. Repair doesn't need to comeback that can be fluffed with Astechs and Techs doing on the fly repairs witch cost nothing.

If you to are tired of all the LRM, Ballistics,SRM Overload and or have ammo you need to chew through in mechlab please sign this petition because I am getting fed up. and I wanna play to have fun not get frustrated.

#2 Alistair Winter

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:07 AM

I don't want to rain on your parade, but I don't think this petition will change anything.

That said, I also want to see repair & rearm brought back, and PGI has said they're still looking into it and it will probably be reintroduced in some fashion, though different from how it was before.

#3 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:22 AM

I am fine without it.

As long as Premium and Hero mechs grant C-Bill Bonuses, Rearm (and Repair) always have an unfortunate "pay-to-win" connotation. If only those with the bonus can afford to regularly utilize ammo-based weapons (or advanced tech), and everyone else cannot, that's a permanently occuring advantage, not merely an advantage in time. (Currently, without Premium, you advance slower, but you still reach the same ceiling. With R&R, this wasn't the case, you were always dropped back and perpetually at disadvantage.)

If they allowed rearming(and repairing) to also be cost-free and instead cost (reasonable amounts) of time, we might be able to talk about it.

#4 Krivvan

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:32 AM

LRMs are underpowered and useless as they are.

#5 18 Inches of Hard Steel

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:10 AM

Costs of parts and ammo does not effect balance. You can bring any mech you want regardless of cost. If ammo spamming is good people will still use it for wins even if it costs a few extra cbills on the outside.

#6 Zerberus

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:37 AM

Yes, let`a reintroduce R+R and screw over new players (again) because someone is incapable of mounting a single AMS or finding cover to counter some of the weakest weapons and playstyles in the game. :)

#7 DerMaulwurf

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:49 AM

I'm vigorously opposed to this proposal. R&R incentivized the worst behaviors in players. I certainly do not miss people effectively dropping underweight to skip on rearm costs.

Plus the already mentioned P2W connotations of Premium Time.

Edited by DerMaulwurf, 08 November 2013 - 02:50 AM.


#8 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:01 AM

90% spamming LRM5?

What kind of lousy Elo hell are you in?

#9 Karl Streiger

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:20 AM

View PostMustrumRidcully, on 08 November 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

If they allowed rearming(and repairing) to also be cost-free and instead cost (reasonable amounts) of time, we might be able to talk about it.

This is the only base for RnR - not CBills, not XP nor MCs.
Only time and generic supply
(although i really want back those days - were a team mate said - have a target in TAG...fire your LRMs...and i was to greedy and didn't spend as single shot of my expensive Artemis IV LRM 20)

#10 Farix

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:36 AM

PGI has flat out stated that they will not be adding R&R back into the game. Time to move on.

#11 Effectz

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:38 AM

People are still QQing over the C-Bill nerf,can only imagine what it would be like with repair and rearm.

#12 Colby Boucher

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:40 AM

"People dropping underweight" would have likely been common... It's not like battlemechs are cheap.

Personally, I loved R&R. Did it make the game more difficult? Hell yes. Did it make it more believable and bring a dynamic to the game that no longer exists (people surrendering and running out of ammo due to lack of funds)? Once again, hell yes.

Edited by Colby Boucher, 08 November 2013 - 03:42 AM.


#13 fandre

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 05:23 AM

Yeah, reimplement R&R and throw a lot of player out of the playerbase, especially those not having the time to reach a sufficient skill level to survive or to grind enough c-bills. It takes so much time to grind enough c-bills for buying and refitting a mech that R&R would make it impossible in a reasonable timeframe, taking a lot of motivation from the game.

Oh and it makes buying mechbays for mc obsolete because a lot of player will get enough c-bills to fill the mechbays.

Edited by fandre, 08 November 2013 - 05:24 AM.


#14 Mechteric

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:27 AM

R&R would not stop people from running those configs. Its a meta, and meta changes. Thanks for playing, now get out there and kill those LRM boats by getting inside 180 meters, or jump sniping them.





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