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#1 MadCat02

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:45 AM

Few month ago a Heavy mech was sort of "DPS CARRY" on the battelfield because of ballistic slots and fast torso twist .

Gause+4 Lasers on Catapult. 3 UAC+2 mediums on Jagger and Cataphract

Technicly having higher firepower over assaults at a cost of XL

Both Gause and UAC5 lost about 30% of their DPS . Don't quate me on math but its about right .

I don't think that PGI took into account that canon boaters left themselves very vulnarble with xl engines.

I use to be afraid of direct fire from heavys but now i get 4-5 kills in close games blowing their center torsos with my misery . It only takes 2 well placed shots .

ORION is a joke by the way . He feels like 75 tons atlas no kidding . Thats a bad thing.

You canon boaters are not scary anymore . 32-35 tons and XL engine on big targets. All day easy picking for me .

Edited by MadCat02, 21 September 2013 - 11:56 AM.


#2 Mr 144

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:50 AM

I am ashamed to say I am in the same ELO bracket as MadCat02.

I disagree with just about everything he says.

#3 PEEFsmash

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:53 AM

Just stop, Madcat. Please, just...this is not your best day. Calm down, and think about how ridiculous what you are saying is. All you are really saying is that Assaults are better than Heavies, which has always been the case. What you are leaving out is how much better Heavies are than Mediums and Lights.

BTW, I almost confused you with Mad Cat Mk II who is one of the game's better players, and Mr. 144 might be doing that as well.

Edited by PEEFsmash, 21 September 2013 - 11:55 AM.


#4 MadCat02

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:55 AM

View PostMr 144, on 21 September 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

I am ashamed to say I am in the same ELO bracket as MadCat02.

I disagree with just about everything he says.


You can disagree with me but i have 6.0 on Misery and still rising because heavy mechs can't fight back when i have decent team .

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:58 AM

*When I have decent team.

Meaning I know plenty of players that would 1v1 you in a heavy and wipe the floor with you. I've seen you play, dude. Nothing special.

#6 Mr 144

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:59 AM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 September 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:


You can disagree with me but i have 6.0 on Misery and still rising because heavy mechs can't fight back when i have decent team .


Derp...Otay :)

Fact is, I hardly play anymore, but when I do...I see you all the time in my matches...which I equate with whatever wierd ELO is in effect lately...You suck...plain and simple...I would rather have a noob in a trial bringing the overall ELO down than you. I've seen your playstyle...I know your skill...I am not impressed with any 'balancing; issues your opinions proclaim :)

#7 MadCat02

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:59 AM

View PostPEEFsmash, on 21 September 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

Just stop, Madcat. Please, just...this is not your best day. Calm down, and think about how ridiculous what you are saying is. All you are really saying is that Assaults are better than Heavies, which has always been the case. What you are leaving out is how much better Heavies are than Mediums and Lights.

BTW, I almost confused you with Mad Cat Mk II who is one of the game's better players, and Mr. 144 might be doing that as well.


That is not true . Before the patch heavys had enoguh fire power to win 1 vs 1 assault with a good aim .

#8 Scarcer

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:02 PM

I'll take him on in my Hunchback-4G

#9 MadCat02

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostMr 144, on 21 September 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:


Derp...Otay :)

Fact is, I hardly play anymore, but when I do...I see you all the time in my matches...which I equate with whatever wierd ELO is in effect lately...You suck...plain and simple...I would rather have a noob in a trial bringing the overall ELO down than you. I've seen your playstyle...I know your skill...I am not impressed with any 'balancing; issues your opinions proclaim :)


You sound very amature . How can i take anything you say sereously ?

#10 CrashieJ

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:05 PM

uhhh, I'm sorry but Mediums still take the crown in sucktitude

Oh, and Heavies are supposed to fall to Assaults.

you know it's supposed to go (sing with me now):

Jenny falls for Hankie but he trips up on the Cat, the Stalker throws the Kitty and Jenny punches back.

#11 Mr 144

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 September 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:


You sound very amature . How can i take anything you say sereously ?


lulz...Otay...don't matter much to me anymore...been here longer...be here long after you've gone...I've walked the talked...don't think you have...but keep on milking that forum cred, lol

#12 Mavqie

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:10 PM

View Postgavilatius, on 21 September 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

uhhh, I'm sorry but Mediums still take the crown in sucktitude

Oh, and Heavies are supposed to fall to Assaults.

you know it's supposed to go (sing with me now):

Jenny falls for Hankie but he trips up on the Cat, the Stalker throws the Kitty and Jenny punches back.



thats possibly the best rhyme i have heard in a long time

#13 End Crescendo

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:12 PM

View Postgavilatius, on 21 September 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

you know it's supposed to go (sing with me now):

Jenny falls for Hankie but he trips up on the Cat, the Stalker throws the Kitty and Jenny punches back.


I love you.

#14 T0rmented

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:19 PM

Because i find your grasp of English offensive, I have fixed your post :

View PostMadCat02, on 21 September 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

A Few month's ago a Heavy mech was a sort of "DPS CARRY" on the battelfield, because of ballistic slots and fast torso twist .

Gauss+4 Lasers on Catapult. 3 UAC+2 mediums on Jager and Cataphract

Technically having a higher firepower over assaults at the cost of an XL

Both Gauss and UAC5 lost about 30% of their DPS (sic). Don't quote me on math, but it's about right .

I don't think (really!?) that PGI took into account that cannon boater's left themselve's very vulnerable with xl engines.

I used to be afraid of direct fire from heavies, but now I get 4-5 kills in close games; blowing their center(re) torso's with my misery . It only takes 2 well placed shots .

ORION is a joke by the way . He feels like 75 ton(not tons which written correctly is tonnes) atlas, no kidding . Thats a bad thing.

You cannon boaters are not scary anymore . 32-35 tons and XL engine on big targets. All day easy picking for me .


I in no way agree with this post. It is however now resembling english.

#15 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:20 PM

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#16 Gaan Cathal

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:27 PM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 September 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

Both Gauss and UAC/5 lost about 30% of their DPS . Don't quote me on math but its about right .


Er...what? No, no it's not. It's not even bloody close.

#17 Chavette

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:27 PM

I was playing a light yesterday(my low elo chassis) to get in matches. I got synced with madcat02. I made such quick work of the opponent he now thinks heavier mechs are useless. Rest is history.

#18 MadCat02

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:33 PM

View Postmwhighlander, on 21 September 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

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Now that i think about it, harkonen would make a good mechwarrior beeing geneticly modified and all

Edited by MadCat02, 21 September 2013 - 12:33 PM.


#19 PEEFsmash

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:48 PM

View PostChavette, on 21 September 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

I was playing a light yesterday(my low elo chassis) to get in matches. I got synced with madcat02. I made such quick work of the opponent he now thinks heavier mechs are useless. Rest is history.


You are doing the world a disservice. I think that most forum complaints are instances when top-tier players get in their lowest-Elo (aka not as often played) weight classes and dominate bads.

#20 The Boz

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:56 PM

View Postgavilatius, on 21 September 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

you know it's supposed to go (sing with me now):

Jenny falls for Hankie but he trips up on the Cat, the Stalker throws the Kitty and Jenny punches back.

I..
This...
Wow.





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