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#1 Nehkrosis

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:44 AM

So, after playing with the thing for a few days, i am fairly positive its hit-boxes are screwed.

I often notice it accruing FAR more damage than it should, from a few hits.
In fact, i just dueled one with a dragon 5n, and brought it down to critical with almost no effort.
and i mean, none.

i even spoke with the guy afterward, and he agreed that i hadnt hit him at all hard for what i was packing.


I dont think this is an issue with the actual SIZE of the CT. i think the CT actually does not have the armour it displays.

I have 70 in my CT.
feels like 40.

Feedback appreciated.

#2 Bilbo

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:52 AM

I've played the ON1-K for a little over 4 hours as a brawler(AC/20 and 4 MLs). I haven't felt at all squishy in the CT or elsewhere. It's actually fast becoming my favorite mech at this point. Maybe I'm just lucky.

#3 N a p e s

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:57 AM

Its bugged for sure. Hopefully a fix is incoming and they just haven't talked about it.

#4 Nehkrosis

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:59 AM

Dont get me wrong. I love this mech.
i just feel like its not performing the way it should.
Seriously, get a mate with an ac10 to just stand there and put rounds into you. count them, then tell me it adds up.

#5 Bilbo

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:05 AM

I don't know what to tell you. I've played all the heavies, in various roles, and this one has been the best brawling mech I've run in quite some time. For me, at least, the staying power is there. It has certainly outperformed my Dragon with a similar build and the dragon is 20kph faster.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:07 AM

I have my Protector elite'd out and grinding all the Orion's I found the CT is a serious damage magnet. And when I say magnet, I mean if a shot is fired at you, your CT will always take the brunt of the hit, even when torso twisting like a mad-man, you still have a high chance that the CT is sticking its tongue out at the Guass round flying your direction.

Lately, I've been running a standard engine in it and twisting far more than I really should just to 'maybe' lose an arm or side torso before the CT inevitably blows. That is, when I'm actually using it, the last few days its just sat in my mechbay, collecting dust. If they decide to patch it I'll most likely love the thing and I kind of do, but until they do I'll just use the knowledge I gained from maxing the thing to be able to take down Orion chasis easier. When fighting an Orion, aim for the fat belly, and it drops, that thing even sticks around corners, and is even succeptable to nut shots, give it a try, shooting off an Orions groin and watching them topple over is hilarious.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:11 AM

View PostRonyn, on 24 September 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

.... Lately, I've been running a standard engine in it and twisting far more than I really should just to 'maybe' lose an arm or side torso before the CT inevitably blows......

I've always done this on pretty much everything I run. Maybe that's why I'm not seeing a problem.

#8 Nehkrosis

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:58 AM

This is not the problem.

I actually dont think that the CT HAS the armor is thinks it does..

#9 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 02:48 PM

View PostBilbo, on 24 September 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

I've always done this on pretty much everything I run. Maybe that's why I'm not seeing a problem.

Since I can hit the CT from behind dude, I don't think that is it. The ST and Arms block next to nothing on the Orion. I'm an old school Centy guy from before they became FotM (hint, I still refuse to run the Zombie), and Twist like I'm at a dance party. Still get 75% of all damage taken to my CT>

#10 Carrioncrows

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:43 PM

Dear OP

I'm surprised you haven't stumbled upon: http://mwomercs.com/...21#entry2765421
Which I find intriguing considering the way I am [Redacted] myself out.

#11 Nehkrosis

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:14 PM

My God.

Thank you Carrioncrows :)

#12 KrazedOmega

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:37 PM

View PostNehkrosis, on 24 September 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

This is not the problem.

I actually dont think that the CT HAS the armor is thinks it does..


I know what you mean. It feels like it has less armor than a medium mech.

I've been killed by shots to the rear more than any other mech.

#13 Gaan Cathal

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:59 PM

View PostRonyn, on 24 September 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

When fighting an Orion, aim for the fat belly, and it drops, that thing even sticks around corners, and is even susceptible to nut shots, give it a try, shooting off an Orions groin and watching them topple over is hilarious.


You do realise this is the case for literally every mech in the game, yes?

#14 VagGR

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:34 AM

same here .... there is definatelly something wrong with hitboxes (and/or the armor values) of the orion....

#15 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:43 AM

View PostGaan Cathal, on 24 September 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:


You do realise this is the case for literally every mech in the game, yes?

Well, let's just say that whilst true, the Orion CT issue can be summed up pretty well with this
http://youtu.be/gJ3tqIukBKg

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 25 September 2013 - 11:44 AM.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:43 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 24 September 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

Since I can hit the CT from behind dude, I don't think that is it. The ST and Arms block next to nothing on the Orion. I'm an old school Centy guy from before they became FotM (hint, I still refuse to run the Zombie), and Twist like I'm at a dance party. Still get 75% of all damage taken to my CT>

Gack A cent without a gun arm is not a cent lol. I dont mind lasers for dead mode, but hell I use those on my hunchy too. Seeing cents witout a gun has always been blaspheme to me lol.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:45 AM

View PostPropagandaWar, on 25 September 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

Gack A cent without a gun arm is not a cent lol. I dont mind lasers for dead mode, but hell I use those on my hunchy too. Seeing cents witout a gun has always been blaspheme to me lol.

PREACH IT BROTHER MAN!!!!!!

Though I do really miss my non zombie-able AH. AC/20 and multiple SRM6 havok FTW!

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 September 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

PREACH IT BROTHER MAN!!!!!!

Though I do really miss my non zombie-able AH. AC/20 and multiple SRM6 havok FTW!

That was a sin I never forgave PGI for. I ran a Dual UAC SRM build and loved that guy. He was Called The Beast. Then the Wang came out grrrrr. Maybe one day we'll get it back.

Edited by PropagandaWar, 25 September 2013 - 11:50 AM.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

View PostPropagandaWar, on 25 September 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

That was a sin I never forgave PGI for. I ran a Dual UAC SRM build and loved that guy. He was Called The Beast. Then the Wang came out grrrrr. Maybe one day we'll get it back.

So frustrating. The WANG and AH were quite distinct enough. Wang go fast with energy back up, AH was more a slow slugger, so pack on the punch! Man I wanted to strap DHS to that thing.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 11:54 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 September 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

So frustrating. The WANG and AH were quite distinct enough. Wang go fast with energy back up, AH was more a slow slugger, so pack on the punch! Man I wanted to strap DHS to that thing.

I did 8 kills in that AH once. It was before the UAC jam but I had insane damage and was pugging. It was like they lined up for me. 2 I killed all by meself the rest were hurt but when your Damage is over 1300 with 8 kill you know you beat the snot outta people.





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