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[Zerstorer Stallin]

I left MWO when they made the announcement that the before promised never 3rd person would indeed be included. I've not touched the game since. I saw a post somewhere that they are getting rid of 3rd person. So the question is simple. Is the 3rd person view going away or not? Since its PGI I wouldn't believe it until its really done, but what's being said at this point?

[RedThirteen]

Zerstorer Stallin, on 05 October 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

I left MWO when they made the announcement that the before promised never 3rd person would indeed be included. I've not touched the game since. I saw a post somewhere that they are getting rid of 3rd person. So the question is simple. Is the 3rd person view going away or not? Since its PGI I wouldn't believe it until its really done, but what's being said at this point?

You can toggle it on and off in normal MM, but apparently 12mans will have 3PV disabled?
At my ELO or w/e it is, few people actually use it. The way it's been implemented is fair too, so personally I don't have that much of an issue with it.

[Sephlock]

Not

[CancersCincar]

Pretty sure it's here for keeps, or at least until they actually put things into the game. Removing 3PV now would just make them look bad.

[Gregory Owen]

3pv isn't a big deal and is not available in 12v12 anyway.

[That Guy]

3PV is here to stay. but seriously, if you quit only because of that, its your loss. 3pv is a novelty at best, uselss at worst (or best?)


i was against 3PV before, but once i saw how it worked in the PTS i saw its was actually quite harmless. if you miss the game its perfectly safe to return

[Booran]

3pv is nothing.
More concern is directed at the UI2.0 and CW.

[Antasius]

The fact that there is a post in the Command Chair called "3Rd Person - An update and Apology" speaks volumes.

Where are we now?

Edited by Antasius, 06 October 2013 - 05:06 AM.

[Bad Andy]

lol @ this post

[John MatriX82]

it unfortunately has to stay.

Imho it should be limited @ 750m view distance like either thermal or night vision, but given that at high level you basically never see it and that it has been eradicated from competitive 12-man premades, imho it's not much of an issue.

The issue is/was how devs reacted ignoring us all about the topic first in the sept. dev update and in the absolutely trolling 3PV rant of Russ, saying that withing 1 week from its introduction everything was fine and everyone was happy with it and that it brought hordes of new players..

[Alois Hammer]

Zerstorer Stallin, on 05 October 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

I saw a post somewhere that they are getting rid of 3rd person.

You got trolled hard, then. 3PV is not only here to stay, it's the default view mode. Working as Intended™.

But maybe with that out of the way, they can find time to work on the UI and CW they've been yammering about for over a year and still don't have anything but Photoshop mockups of to show us. (Yeah riiiiight... )

[mike29tw]

Alois Hammer, on 06 October 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

You got trolled hard, then. 3PV is not only here to stay, it's the default view mode. Working as Intended™.

But maybe with that out of the way, they can find time to work on the UI and CW they've been yammering about for over a year and still don't have anything but Photoshop mockups of to show us. (Yeah riiiiight... )

Exactly my take on the issue. If that's what it takes(introducing 3PV even though nobody wants it) to make you guys work more on UI2.0 and CW, then whatever. It serves its purpose well(showing player the torso in relation to the legs) and no one in their right mind will use it in combat.

[Sandpit]

Soooooo..... once again 3pv is touted as a new player feature? Sooooo..... you couldn't think of ANY other way to wrap a players head around legs in one direction and torso in another? Liiiiiiike oh I don't know..... explaining it the same way millions understand how a tank turret operates independently of the direction of the tracks.....? 3pv is nothing more than an unfair advantage and I shouldn't have to play against it in ANY form. As promised. Period.

[IceLom]

Sandpit, on 06 October 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Soooooo..... once again 3pv is touted as a new player feature? Sooooo..... you couldn't think of ANY other way to wrap a players head around legs in one direction and torso in another? Liiiiiiike oh I don't know..... explaining it the same way millions understand how a tank turret operates independently of the direction of the tracks.....? 3pv is nothing more than an unfair advantage and I shouldn't have to play against it in ANY form. As promised. Period.

You have access to it as well.... therefore its not an unfair advantage.

You may not like it, you may not like what it lets enemies do, however it is in no way an unfair advantage. its like saying "the enemy used the zoom feature and i don't like it and refuse to use it therefore the enemy had an unfair advantage."

3rd person is next to useless in actually combat, people argue about seeing around corners and {Scrap} but I have yet to see it actually used in game to that effect.... If someone can good for them!

[Sandpit]

IceLom, on 06 October 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

You have access to it as well.... therefore its not an unfair advantage.

You may not like it, you may not like what it lets enemies do, however it is in no way an unfair advantage. its like saying "the enemy used the zoom feature and i don't like it and refuse to use it therefore the enemy had an unfair advantage."

3rd person is next to useless in actually combat, people argue about seeing around corners and {Scrap} but I have yet to see it actually used in game to that effect.... If someone can good for them!

No, not good for them, that's called exploitation and is against the rules. No different than suicide farming. The fact that you say that says a lot in general. Unfair advantage? Ok, I can concede that, it's not an unfair advantage. If you haven't seen it used like that then that's on you. There are a couple of screenshots taken of it being used as an exploit.

[Hisashi No Oni]

How else am I going to see my ober cool paint job? Its a nice perk but im not going fight in it.

[Green Mamba]

Putin wants 3rd person view in game I heard

[Zerstorer Stallin]

So the real problem I have with 3rd Person view, as a founder is, we were told clearly with out a chance, there would not be 3rd person. The same for coolant. The only reason this game is even here is the founders program was such a success. That success was built on lies told to us. If third person is here to stay I don't see me coming back. More over I personally think the crowd that might be drawn to this feature won't stay long term anyway. PGI is everything PC gamers hate in PC gaming. I know for sure I would never spend another penny on MWO while they are in control of the title. Anyway was just checking, for a second I hoped they had a change in leadership and got the message, sadly this seems not to be the case.