28 replies to this topic

[151st Light Horse Regiment]

Had enough of this.

All the ******* time. Select commander, and the moment you move a player in a lance, (or even just select a commander position), you get babies screaming about their 'premade'.

Just now, I joined a game, selected commander, and moved another JM6 into my lance to keep it even.

Without warning, asking to change it, or even giving me chance to respond, two battlemasters turned around, tk'd me straight away, and called me a ****** for 'messing with their premade'.

What the hell is this bollocks all about.

[Green Mamba]

If you were in a Premade would you like it if someone else moved your Lancemates around without asking first? You did not say you asked them first you just did it

Edited by Green Mamba, 06 November 2013 - 03:03 PM.

[Wispsy]

151st Light Horse Regiment, on 06 November 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Had enough of this.

All the ******* time. Select commander, and the moment you move a player in a lance, (or even just select a commander position), you get babies screaming about their 'premade'.

Just now, I joined a game, selected commander, and moved another JM6 into my lance to keep it even.

Without warning, asking to change it, or even giving me chance to respond, two battlemasters turned around, tk'd me straight away, and called me a ****** for 'messing with their premade'.

What the hell is this bollocks all about.

Well if you desperately feel the need to move people around in their lances (It is quite often not helpful in pugs anyway unless you happen to be on comms or very used to playing with them and their style already, but your choice whatever) I suggest you do not do it to Alpha lance ever. This way you should minimize the amount of deaths you suffer at the hands of your team.

Edited by Wispsy, 06 November 2013 - 03:03 PM.

[Murphy7]

Maybe on taking command, you can simply ask if there are premades that need to be kept together, or if people would mind being rearranged along role-related lines.

They've put themselves together as a group of four, and someone feels like they can pull rank and rearrange the game for all 12 people on the side, without any communication as to why and wherefor?

TKing can be a bit much, but you don't sound like you're handling this as well as you could, either.

[JigglyMoobs]

Saw it happen on a PUG yesterday. Made my jaw drop.

********* leader of the 4 man on our team went into full on spaz out mode and could not be reasoned with. Starts cursing out and then TKed the unfortunate chap who was the commander. Then, some how a second team mate ended up with the star and also got TKed. At this point, the enemy team were bearing down on us, and the lance of self-perceived heros got themselves rolled into fine dust like soggy corn flakes on a hot drive way.

Luckily Jiggly and a few stalwarts were there to save the day. We wiped out the enemy team even with 2 people down and at least one, and possibly four people mentally handicapped.

Note to TKers - if you are in a premade, then you should be on comms, in which case it shouldn't matter whether you are in a lance or not. If you are not on comms, then what is the freaking point of your premade?

Edited by JigglyMoobs, 06 November 2013 - 03:16 PM.

[JSparrowist]

Any reported TK for whatever reason should be a one week ban. I never had to much of a problem with being TK'ed until the last month or two. What changed?

PGI needs to come down HARD on anyone who team kills, no matter the reason. It just isn't acceptable for any reason at all.

[ShortBusBully]

To me what difference does it make if my buddies are in same lance or not. Even without comms we would still stick together. Hell sometimes when we enter a game were not in the same lance anyway. However, I will team kill anyone that recklessly shoots me or intentionally. Its about the only thing that ****** me off in this game, besides the whiners, is when were all walking to battle and some ***** takes half my armor off cause he is screwing around with his guns. Accidents happen and you can usually tell when it is, but the idiots get TKd

[Green Mamba]

People in Premades should be able to "LOCK" their Lances so people can't move them around.There is a reason they formed up together ,they know more than you do about their Lances

[Adiuvo]

Why are you moving around people to begin with? It's completely useless.

Premades like being together because it makes it easier to identify each other on the map and allows you to see health values without physically scanning for everyone.

[FupDup]

On one hand it's kinda stupid for a pug commander to move people around, but on the other hand it's even more stupid to teamkill him because of it. Basically, you are doing something stupid to get revenge against somebody who did something stupid to you. As a result, you have become your own enemy (philosophically). In other words, two wrongs don't make a right.

[Sandpit]

151st Light Horse Regiment, on 06 November 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Had enough of this.

All the ******* time. Select commander, and the moment you move a player in a lance, (or even just select a commander position), you get babies screaming about their 'premade'.

Just now, I joined a game, selected commander, and moved another JM6 into my lance to keep it even.

Without warning, asking to change it, or even giving me chance to respond, two battlemasters turned around, tk'd me straight away, and called me a ****** for 'messing with their premade'.

What the hell is this bollocks all about.

report them to support

Green Mamba, on 06 November 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

If you were in a Premade would you like it if someone else moved your Lancemates around without asking first? You did not say you asked them first you just did it

no amount of "But but, I'm special cuz I'm in a premade and you have no right to move us" opinion changes the fact that TKing is against the rules and if you do this I will continue adjusting lances while you enjoy your ban for TKing

[Duncan Aravain]

I don't condone TKs, period. That being said, I am tired of some kid who thinks they are a tactical genius rearranging lances so that they fit into what he deems is a better balance. They then tend to either tell us to defend the caldera/crater or remain strangely quiet until they soon die and relinquish control. When you see a lance flash up a lance commander icon, leave that lance alone. Let's make a deal: you leave our premade lance intact and we'll let you have your little flight of fancy as some tactical expert.

Edited by Duncan Aravain, 06 November 2013 - 03:41 PM.

[MoonUnitBeta]

If you're team killed:
Take screenshots.
Generate e-mail to support@mwomercs.com give a breakdown of what happened, attach screenshots, include names.
Include the suggestion to include that premade groups of two or more be locked into a lance in UI2.0.

Avoid being teamkilled:
Ask about any premades before assuming commander.
Do not try to test or troll people.
Do your best to resolve if an issue arises, remain calm, take screenshots.
If you are fired upon, do not fire back even if you are fired upon. Those who try to kill you will do so whether you fire back or not. Killing the team killer can put you in a worse position.
Take screenshots.

Do not use TK'ers names on the forums.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 06 November 2013 - 03:42 PM.

[Ghogiel]

Oh great PUGcommander lead us to victory!

[Clit Beastwood]

Murphy7, on 06 November 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Maybe on taking command, you can simply ask if there are premades that need to be kept together, or if people would mind being rearranged along role-related lines.

They've put themselves together as a group of four, and someone feels like they can pull rank and rearrange the game for all 12 people on the side, without any communication as to why and wherefor?

TKing can be a bit much, but you don't sound like you're handling this as well as you could, either.

That's what I do- I ask.
I've been thanked for it many times, and I also got ff'd by someone who didn't speak up. The rest of my team took him out, he complained, and they said in chat "he asked nicely" - a little manners go a long way.

[Purlana]

If they always kill you for doing it....

Why do you continue to keep at it!!!?

Edited by Purlana, 06 November 2013 - 03:42 PM.

[TercieI]

Green Mamba, on 06 November 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

People in Premades should be able to "LOCK" their Lances so people can't move them around.There is a reason they formed up together ,they know more than you do about their Lances

Great idea.

I was dropping with a buddy the other night and we got split up. I told the guy "you really should ask about premades first. We don't care, but many would shoot you for that."

Edited by Terciel1976, 06 November 2013 - 03:43 PM.

[Vodrin Thales]

151st Light Horse Regiment, on 06 November 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Had enough of this.

All the ******* time. Select commander, and the moment you move a player in a lance, (or even just select a commander position), you get babies screaming about their 'premade'.

Just now, I joined a game, selected commander, and moved another JM6 into my lance to keep it even.

Without warning, asking to change it, or even giving me chance to respond, two battlemasters turned around, tk'd me straight away, and called me a ****** for 'messing with their premade'.

What the hell is this bollocks all about.

While I do not condone a TK or any sort of FF as a response, there is no good reason to ever re-arrange lances in a pug. Trying to put similar mechs in the same lance does not increase combat effectiveness unless you are all in voice comms together. Until we get integrated VOIP, just resist the urge.

[WVAnonymous]

I admit I have TKed (in self defense) but not for being rearranged.

If offended, tell them to rearrange you back, or to surrender command and rearrange yourself back. That should take much much less time and ammo.

Or this post I will steal and reprint:

MoonUnitBeta, on 06 November 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

If you're team killed:
Take screenshots.
Generate e-mail to support@mwomercs.com give a breakdown of what happened, attach screenshots, include names.
Include the suggestion to include that premade groups of two or more be locked into a lance in UI2.0.

Avoid being teamkilled:
Ask about any premades before assuming commander.
Do not try to test or troll people.
Do your best to resolve if an issue arises, remain calm, take screenshots.
If you are fired upon, do not fire back even if you are fired upon. Those who try to kill you will do so whether you fire back or not. Killing the team killer can put you in a worse position.
Take screenshots.

Do not use TK'ers names on the forums.

[Bront]

I've moved folks around once... when I dropped in a locust and saw 3 other lights, and I asked first. Everyone said fine, and I did it, and it was no big deal.

On the other hand, I've been pissed when some PUG ripped up my premade. happened 3 times. First time, the guy ignored me and continued to do it when I (and 2 other teammates and ANOTHER premade asked him to stop), and then he ran off and was the first to die (entirely by enemy hands to my knoweldge), the second guy stopped but never relinquished command or fixed it. The third guy appologized (I think he thought we'd teamkill him, I assured him we wouldn't), dropped command, I fixed it, and let him have it back.

No violent teamkills on our end that I've seen.