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#1 Wicked Gaming

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:05 PM

i hate to say it but its true, and i dont care how good a pilot is. they cant even survive one shot in a match now it doesnt matter how much armor you put on it. im just sayin.i might aswell 1) go in with no armor or 2) just cap .thats the only thing i see in a spider now, and there not even fun anymore and the spider was the only chassy i enjoyed. so yea thats how i feel i dont care what people say

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:11 PM

Welcome to what every other light had to go through especially the Locusts.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:28 PM

Spider hit boxes were fixed, but hit registration is still not working correctly.

I can definitely tell that I take more hits now, but it's still not where it should be. I still see a lot of shots hit me but not apply damage.

If you can no longer pilot Spiders it's because you were too reliant on them being broken, and now they are less broken than they were.

You either need to adapt and adjust, or stop piloting Spiders.

#4 DONTOR

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:28 PM

I was fighting one earlier in my commando and it was like fighting a regular light mech. It took damage where I aimed, it was a good fight but it felt more genuine than pre patch spiders.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:29 PM

ummm...so now you need to L2P like every REAL light pilot does instead of riding broken game mechanics to e-peen nirvana?

My heart bleeds, truly.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 21 November 2013 - 02:30 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:39 PM

ITT, people getting trolled.

#7 FupDup

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:43 PM

I haven't played enough since the patch to notice anything yet, but my first impression is that people are overreacting from both sides of the issue, sort of like people saying the Awesome is suddenly tough now. It's probably just a placebo effect.

#8 DarkDevilDancer

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:46 PM

Awww is your flavour of the month no longer broken, diddums.

I haven't been able to play my spider because it was so badly broken, it didnt take any skill to do well in a spider the last few months so i just didn't use it.

Yes hit detection is better but its still not 100% yet, i fully expect the QQ to be epic but too bad people spider isn't working right and you were abusing that fact.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:49 PM

View PostDurant Carlyle, on 21 November 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

Spider hit boxes were fixed, but hit registration is still not working correctly.

I can definitely tell that I take more hits now, but it's still not where it should be. I still see a lot of shots hit me but not apply damage.

If you can no longer pilot Spiders it's because you were too reliant on them being broken, and now they are less broken than they were.

You either need to adapt and adjust, or stop piloting Spiders.

Exactly...No more Battle line spiders....My unit has several Spider pilots and they are still doing decent damage and can still operate them effectively...

#10 Malleus011

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 03:11 PM

I saw a lone Spider run into the middle of two full lances of heavies and assaults.

It actually took damage from weapons fire and died. Coulda knocked me over with a feather.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 03:19 PM

Spider hit registration appears to be mostly fixed now. That doesn't mean they aren't viable, just that you can't tank like you used to.

If I can be effective in a Locust, Spider pilots will be just fine.

#12 Alistair Winter

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 03:21 PM

I don't think the Spider is very different than what it was before, personally. It's hard for me to say, because I don't own a Spider, but I've spent some time spectating other Spider pilots to see how much damage they took when they were hit. It seemed to be significantly less than my Ravens would have taken, even now.

The good news is, there's a lot less Spiders around even though they're still probably borked. Because people seem to follow trends simply by reading patch notes. I'm fairly sure that if the next patch notes said PPCs have more ghost heat, loads of people would stop using them even without trying them first. So many times in the history of this game, people have abandoned certain "useless" builds, only to come back to them when they realized they're still pretty good.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 03:22 PM

View Postjimbobjoe, on 21 November 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

i hate to say it but its true, and i dont care how good a pilot is. they cant even survive one shot in a match now it doesnt matter how much armor you put on it. im just sayin.i might aswell 1) go in with no armor or 2) just cap .thats the only thing i see in a spider now, and there not even fun anymore and the spider was the only chassy i enjoyed. so yea thats how i feel i dont care what people say


Bushido up, I hate to see a fellow member of the DCMS behave in this dishonorable fashion. Now you will have to find a way to make them work.(ie don't expect to survive due to a flaw.

BTW, I also drive spiders, and I'm glad for this because it will mean that spiders are both rare and take skill to use effectively.

#14 KharnZor

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 03:50 PM

View Postjimbobjoe, on 21 November 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

i hate to say it but its true, and i dont care how good a pilot is. they cant even survive one shot in a match now it doesnt matter how much armor you put on it. im just sayin.i might aswell 1) go in with no armor or 2) just cap .thats the only thing i see in a spider now, and there not even fun anymore and the spider was the only chassy i enjoyed. so yea thats how i feel i dont care what people say

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#15 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:43 PM

So does this mean I can go back to driving my beloved 5d all the time now? Is the godmode easy to win over? Is it time to wipe off the dust?

#16 Amsro

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 08:13 PM

Uhh... HAHAHA... no spiders are very much still awesome, instead now the pilot needs to learn how to pilot it now.

#17 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 09:18 PM

View Postjimbobjoe, on 21 November 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

i hate to say it but its true, and i dont care how good a pilot is. they cant even survive one shot in a match now it doesnt matter how much armor you put on it. im just sayin.i might aswell 1) go in with no armor or 2) just cap .thats the only thing i see in a spider now, and there not even fun anymore and the spider was the only chassy i enjoyed. so yea thats how i feel i dont care what people say

W00T!!!

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:43 PM

This thread makes me smile.

I was going to post this whole lmao at you, now you cant play "easy" mode anymore you lagshield abusing... blah blah blah.

But no... I think I'll just sit here with my smugface on.

;)

#20 Elkfire

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:48 AM

View Postjimbobjoe, on 21 November 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

i hate to say it but its true, and i dont care how good a pilot is. they cant even survive one shot in a match now it doesnt matter how much armor you put on it. im just sayin.i might aswell 1) go in with no armor or 2) just cap .thats the only thing i see in a spider now, and there not even fun anymore and the spider was the only chassy i enjoyed. so yea thats how i feel i dont care what people say

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