56 replies to this topic

[Gryphorim]

I'm all for sized hardpoints, however, I think they should just be Little,Big,Biggest, as opposed to being a specific number of crits. My reason being, we may one day get access to rare weapons like Binary lasers (4 crit energy weapon) and manufacturer specific weapons that may be larger or smaller no. of crits to offset a specific advantage/handicap.

[Roland]

RandomLurker, on 04 October 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:

Putting ridiculous weapons on small mech's is a grand MW tradition. And a BT one for that matter. Look at the 35-ton Hollander:

HOLLANDER SAYS "EAT THIS, ARTISTIC PERSPECTIVE!"

In reality though, the hollander just proves why hardpoint sizes would make sense. The Hollander was SPECIAL because it was a light mech capable of carrying a gauss. So if you gave hardpoint sizes, it would have a large hardpoint.

I actually made a fairly detailed system for how to implement hardpoint sizes, in a way which would be pretty simple to actually get in the game, but it was ignored years ago.

[Gryphorim]

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[color=#959595] [/color]We don't need to make any additional restrictions i.e. fixed structure, heatsinks and engine.
Neither we need ghost heat any more.[color=#959595] [/color]

Whilst I agree with you on the Ghost heat Issue, the restriction proposed for omnimechs is lifted straight from the TT rulebook. I am happy with Clan Omnimechs having these restictions as a trade-off for meta-breaking flexibility in weapon loadouts. Also would be great if, with the new launch flow, omnimechs mechbay is still accessible right up to launching, whilst battlemechs (including omni's that have been modified, thus reverting them back to battlemechs, as per TT rulebook) are locked out of mechbay before joining the launch lobby.

[Dirus Nigh]

Gray 46rus, on 04 October 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

Hollander was specialy designed to carry Gauss. Try to imagine Raven with such wunderwaffe on the arm
Neither Raven nor Cicada can do that, but Hollander can. Do we have Hollander in MWO? NO. Do you know why? No need.
Trying to refute my statement, you just proved it. I feel OK with Hollander, but not with Gauss-Raven or Gauss-Spider.

Its just a damn graphical icon. get over yourself. In order to put a large weapon on a small mech a lot is sacrificed to do it.

I disagree with the OP. hard point sizes are not needed. it will only cut down on variety.

I did not vote because the pole was poorly written. Make it a simple and honest yes no selection.

Edited by Dirus Nigh, 21 December 2013 - 10:31 PM.

[Omen 46rus]

Dirus Nigh, on 21 December 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

I disagree with the OP. hard point sizes are not needed. it will only cut down on variety.

Variety for Inner Sphere mechs? What are you talking about?
How can you be so purblind? Clans are the ones who rely on variety. Poor fishes vainly trying to balance them against uber-variably IS mechs.

[Dirus Nigh]

Omen 46rus, on 22 December 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Variety for Inner Sphere mechs? What are you talking about?
How can you be so purblind? Clans are the ones who rely on variety. Poor fishes vainly trying to balance them against uber-variably IS mechs.

What in the hell are you talking about?

[Omen 46rus]

Dirus Nigh, on 22 December 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

What in the hell are you talking about?

I am talking about IS mech variants. Refits are extremely rare for Inner Sphere mechs, 99% of mechwarriors run stock variants. Additionally, refits was made on the manufacture, before mech is built. That insanity called "MWO mechlab" is a Clan privilege.
After all, we don't suggest to refuse all the Mechlab functionality, just limit it to give Clan mechs a chance.

Edited by Omen 46rus, 22 December 2013 - 08:27 AM.

[Wasted Merc]

Don't clans mechs already have a huge advantage with there superior tech?

[Thorn Hallis]

Omen 46rus, on 22 December 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

I am talking about IS mech variants. Refits are extremely rare for Inner Sphere mechs, 99% of mechwarriors run stock variants. Additionally, refits was made on the manufacture, before mech is built. That insanity called "MWO mechlab" is a Clan privilege.
After all, we don't suggest to refuse all the Mechlab functionality, just limit it to give Clan mechs a chance.

Most mercenaries run custom builds. And refit packages are installied "in the field" (which of course do not include Endo-Steel or Ferro).

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Roland, on 21 December 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

HOLLANDER SAYS "EAT THIS, ARTISTIC PERSPECTIVE!"

In reality though, the hollander just proves why hardpoint sizes would make sense. The Hollander was SPECIAL because it was a light mech capable of carrying a gauss. So if you gave hardpoint sizes, it would have a large hardpoint.

I actually made a fairly detailed system for how to implement hardpoint sizes, in a way which would be pretty simple to actually get in the game, but it was ignored years ago.

Maybe is time to bring it again.
This game real needs this. I mean REAL.
Anyone talking about that will cut variety is irrelevant. I will sey opposite. That will just add a real variety and flavor. Right now you have frankenstein without any shape running everywhare killing BT flavor and fun. I want to have panther, i want to have hollander, hunchy and whatever else mech to have hes special flavor and unicnes. So in reality that will just add some called variety.

[Gray 46rus]

Thorn Hallis, on 28 December 2013 - 03:01 AM, said:

Most mercenaries run custom builds. And refit packages are installied "in the field" (which of course do not include Endo-Steel or Ferro).

"Refit" doesn't mean "redesign". Mech designed to carry machine guns can't carry AC/20. It's rediculous and it make dozens of mech models senseless. It's enough to have just a single ultra-variable model of each weight.

[Artgathan]

Dirus Nigh, on 21 December 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

I did not vote because the pole was poorly written.

Oh my sides! The irony! (I realize this is not a correct use of "irony").

I think sized hard-points have their merits. I used to want them... I think there may be better ways to improve diversity though.

[Dirus Nigh]

Artgathan, on 08 January 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Oh my sides! The irony! (I realize this is not a correct use of "irony").

I think sized hard-points have their merits. I used to want them... I think there may be better ways to improve diversity though.

My comment was simple and honest. If your going to do a pole then mark the choices clearly and with out ********. That is a simple yes, no, other.

[Artgathan]

Dirus Nigh, on 08 January 2014 - 01:45 PM, said:

My comment was simple and honest. If your going to do a pole then mark the choices clearly and with out ********. That is a simple yes, no, other.

I was laughing over you critiquing his post as being "poorly written" but you used the wrong version of "pole".

Pole: A rod
Poll: Something for gathering opinions

People often confuse homophones (words that sound the same).

I totally agree that the phrasing in the poll is biased and should be re-done though.

[Dirus Nigh]

Artgathan, on 08 January 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

I was laughing over you critiquing his post as being "poorly written" but you used the wrong version of "pole".

Pole: A rod
Poll: Something for gathering opinions

People often confuse homophones (words that sound the same).

I totally agree that the phrasing in the poll is biased and should be re-done though.

Eh I could not remember which was which, so I just picked one and went with it.

[Mechteric]

With 2 slots of energy you should then be able to mount a large laser but not a PPC. I think that would be an interesting idea, except the balance implications are pretty widespread since they'd need to dial that in for every single variant, which would be quite the task.

[3rdworld]

Aside from this same topic being discussed ad nauseam.

The problem with adding hardpoint restrictions now: Hero mechs exist, specifically the Protector & Dragon slayer, and possibly the Firebrand depending on how you limit its ballistic ports. Both come with "large" ballistics and a PPC. Instead of highlanders you have hero mechs. Pick your poison.

Edited by 3rdworld, 13 January 2014 - 06:54 AM.