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[jd7710]

Does Anyone Else Wish To See IIC Clan mechs I Mwo? Now I Know They Are 2ND Line mechs For Garrison Or To Die With Honor But Man I Would Love To Pilot One On This game

Edited by jd7710, 06 October 2013 - 10:33 AM.

[Skylarr]

Marack Drock, on 04 October 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

Not really but I'd love a Battlemaster IIC or a Warhammer IIC. I'd love a nice Hunchback IIC more than any of them.

I agree with the Battlemaster IIC and the Warhammer IIC. They are nice. But, I feel the Hunchback IIC would not work like it was intended.



Mass 50 tons
Engine 200 XL
Armament

• 2x Ultra AC/20s only 5 shots.
  
• 2x ER Medium Lasers

Edited by Skylarr, 04 October 2013 - 04:59 PM.

[jd7710]

my personal favorite was the marauder 3 ppc and a small laser then a rifleman

[CoffiNail]

Highlander IIC

Would love to get a good batch of IIC second line BattleMechs. I do prefer the front line OmniMechs though.

Executioner FTW! Mad Dog FTW and Firemoth for the very speedy win!

[ChapeL]

Stay tuned for the Clan garrison pack + Solhama reinforcements shortly after

[rolly]

Bull Frog, on 04 October 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

Stay tuned for the Clan garrison pack + Solhama reinforcements shortly after

LOL I'd like to see how much that would set us back.

Clan Garrison Pack - Refinance your car
Solhama - Second mortgage

Act now!

[Dontuu]

Me being a Shadow Hawk fan, I would like to see....



Shadow Hawk IIc

[Aethon]

CoffiNail, on 04 October 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

Highlander IIC

Given a Highlander IIC and proper Gauss Rifle mechanics, I would become a hermit for MWO.

[aniviron]

Where's the love for the Jenner IIC?

"Like a Jenner, but less silly-looking! Now with three times the boom!"

[Aethon]

aniviron, on 05 October 2013 - 01:37 AM, said:

Where's the love for the Jenner IIC?

"Like a Jenner, but less silly-looking! Now with three times the boom!"

Now that you mention it, that was a wicked little mech; I think my only aversion to it is its atrocious cost/performance ratio on tabletop...which is irrelevant here.

Yeah...add a Jenner IIC to my 'must-have' list.

[rolly]

Awww come on. No love for the Locust IIC?

[FupDup]

Forget the IIC series. I just want a Piranha.


^^Your ankles. He claims them.

[Skylarr]

Quote

IIC

Description

IIC ("two-C", for "second generation, Clan technology") is an Inner Sphere designation for various items of Clan equipment that evolved out of certain classic designs or items, built with superior Clan technology. Originally coined for certain BattleMech designs, IIC was later also used for superior (Clan-level) technology rebuilds of aerospace fighters, vehicles, and other equipment that evolved out of an earlier namesake in a similar fashion, and is now used for a broad range of advanced items.

The IIC designation originated with the Inner Sphere and is not a Clan term, even though it describes their technology as opposed to Inner Sphere technology. As such, the Clans themselves did not use the IIC description initially, referring to IIC units and items by their traditional Star League-era name (without the "IIC" appendix) instead. Later on, around the Jihad era past the year 3067, the Clans seem to use it as well to differentiate IIC designs from their classic ancestors which are sometimes still in use in the Inner Sphere.
Among the BattleTech fan base, "IIC" is also (often jokingly) used very broadly for the concepts of superiority or improvement; it is unclear if the designation is in similarly casual use within the BattleTech universe.

Although superior to Inner Sphere technology, IIC 'Mechs and fighters do not make use of Omni technology and were thus already considered obsolete by the Clans by the time of the Clan Invasion. They were absent from frontline formations, but were used in second-line and garrison units.

Many IIC designs have altered the parent design's mass and some actually bear little resemblance to the earlier design or item of the same name.
No IIC Spaceships

Spaceships seem to be a notable exception from the IIC naming scheme:

There are no IIC DropShips. Despite effectively being IIC-style redesigns, the Union-C and Overlord-C are named thus, even by the Clans themselves (and the IIC-style evolution of the Leopard was named the Broadsword).

Similarly, the upgraded Clan version of the K-1 DropShuttle is called the K-1C (and not K-1 IIC).

The Clans do operate upgraded versions of common JumpShip types with (it is implied) improved on-board electronics and other advanced technologies such as HarJel hull sealant safety systems, but the overall differences seem to be minor and they are not named differently.

Neither is there a IIC WarShip class, despite many vessels in the Clan fleets having undergone some form of upgrade.
Difference between "IIC" and "C" designs

IIC BattleMechs, which are essentially new 'Mech models designed to make use of Clan technology, should not be confused with "C" BattleMechs:

Somewhat similar to the IIC concept, "C"-type BattleMechs are standard 'Mech designs that have been built or upgraded with advanced Clan equipment and components, but are essentially only a variant of their parent design built with better components and not an altogether new design (as opposed to a IIC 'Mech that has been redesigned from the ground up). Frequently, the change is limited to exchanging weapon systems for advanced Clan counterparts, without changing the chassis or other components such as the fusion engine or heat sinks. They are typically built by the Clans at captured Inner Sphere factories to achieve the best possible production result without having to retool the factory for an entirely different 'Mech model.
Known IIC designs

BattleMechs

• Beowulf IIC
  
• Clint IIC
  
• Commando IIC
  
• Conjurer (Hellhound), confirmed to be the Wolverine IIC in all but name; five tons lighter than the original Wolverine
  
• Dervish IIC (apocryphal)
  
• Griffin IIC, fifteen tons lighter than the original Griffin
  
• Guillotine IIC
  
• Highlander IIC
  
• Hunchback IIC
  
• Jenner IIC
  
• Locust IIC, five tons heavier than the original Locust
  
• Marauder IIC, ten tons heavier than the original Marauder and thus classed as an assault 'Mech, not a heavy 'Mech
  
• Orion IIC
  
• Ostscout IIC (prototypes only; project cancelled before entering production)
  
• Phoenix Hawk IIC, thirty-five tons heavier than the original Phoenix Hawk and thus classed as an assault 'Mech, not a medium 'Mech
  
• Rifleman IIC, five tons heavier than the original Rifleman
  
• Shadow Hawk IIC, ten tons lighter than the original Shadow Hawk
  
• Stinger IIC
  
• Thunderbolt IIC
  
• UrbanMech IIC
  
• Warhammer IIC, ten tons heavier than the original Warhammer and thus classed as an assault 'Mech, not a heavy 'Mech
  
• Wolfhound IIC, a rebuild of Phelan Kell's personal 'Mech and presumably a unique one-off design
  
• Wyvern IIC

Aerospace fighters

• Chippewa IIC

Vehicles

• Axel IIC tank

Other

• Mauser IIC assault rifle

[CoffiNail]

IIC - Two C - Two Clan
Same meaning though as Sarna gives.

Two Clan is always how I will say it. Unless in the heat of battle, battlechatter promotes 'Two C'

Edited by CoffiNail, 06 October 2013 - 09:50 AM.

[CyclonerM]

Yes, i would like a JennerIIC. I remember it from MW2.. Lovely. That is why i bought a Jenner..

But of course, i'm looking forward to Omni-mechs. Does anyone roleplay as a second-line freebirth or solahma?

[jd7710]

Since we have received some answers what would be your favorite Omni mech to pilot given any being manufactured pre 3050?

[CoffiNail]

Executioner. . . Mad Dog. . . Fire Moth.

[CyclonerM]

Timberwolf, Mad Dog, Stormcrow!

[jd7710]

hellbringer uller and nova

[CyclonerM]

jd7710, on 06 October 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

uller

You mean Kit Fox quiaff?