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[CooloutAC]

Its like its secretly folding or mining for bitcoins, what is up with that? a corrupt employee? did the company get hacked
Webpages that have more things going on don't heat up my vid card like this. I tried limiting my fps doesn't help. minimizing it helps it slightly. But i mean WHY!?!! why would the launcher be doing this, so crazy..... Its like when i'm in the mech loadout i'm trying to hurry up and launch the game before my vid card overheats. Ok its not that bad, but i mean it will shoot to 80 degrees. when playing the game itself is only 60 degrees lmao.....

.I also have noticed...i have roughtly about 10 fps less then when i first started playing the game? wtf?

I've never seen anything like this in all my years of gaming...35 years or death!!!

Edited by CooloutAC, 11 October 2013 - 10:29 AM.

[NocturnalBeast]

You would think that in your 30 years of gaming, you would learn how to build a system with adequate cooling.

[Barbaric Soul]

The mech lab has always caused video cards to run hot. Been like that for a while, all the way back into open BETA. No idea why this hasn't been addressed. It has been brought to the attention of the DEVs multiple times. About your FPS, are you comparing FPS on different maps? Different maps cause differences in FPS because of the different types of content.

[Catamount]

It seems to me the OP is cooling his system just fine. 80C is hardly a problem for a GPU, and 60 in game is actually pretty decent.

[CooloutAC]

why you nerds are talking about cooling I dunno, thats not my issue. Even if i have water cooling, it does not change the fact that the launcher runs way hotter then the game itself. You do not think there is something wrong with that? Its extremely suspicious imo.

@barbaric soul, ya i'm talking about just in general in the game. I only get about 30 fps on low now, when i swore i use to get 40, give or take depending on map yes. Dunno what happened, I assume i pissed off the wrong guy lol. a huge diff especially when playing with a light mech....oh well...

i have a quadcore 2.8ghz hd 5870 1gb.

Edited by CooloutAC, 11 October 2013 - 12:34 PM.

[Catamount]

You don't have a problem, OP, just a curiosity.

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Its extremely suspicious imo

oic...

yes, suspicious indeed! Clearly it must have to do with chemtrails, and 9/11, and thimerosol, and aliens, definitively aliens, too.

I mean, I'm not SAYING it's aliens, or anything, but it's aliens.

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I only get about 30 fps on low now, when i swore i use to get 40, give or take depending on map yes. Dunno what happened, I assume i pissed off the wrong guy lol. a huge diff especially when playing with a light mech....oh well...

i have a quadcore 2.8ghz hd 5870 1gb

Considering I have a GPU that's four times less powerful than that in my laptop and I get those framerates, it's clearly your CPU that's holding you back. Your fps loss might just be 12-mans coming in. I don't know what CPU you have, so I don't know how well it's likely to OC, but that's the only way you're going to be dealing with that problem most likely.

Edited by Catamount, 11 October 2013 - 01:19 PM.

[StainlessSR]

The reason for the high heat is that the launcher is not limited in fps unless you have opted to limit fps in your driver software for your video card.

Mechlab for me is not causing any heat problems and is limited to 60fps, same in-game 60fps.

Your fps loss is due to new things being added to the game, this fps loss creep went on all through closed beta where it would get worse then they would do an optimization patch and they would improve again.

You should really think about overclocking to improve in game performance.

[CooloutAC]

StainlessSR, on 11 October 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

The reason for the high heat is that the launcher is not limited in fps unless you have opted to limit fps in your driver software for your video card.

Mechlab for me is not causing any heat problems and is limited to 60fps, same in-game 60fps.

Your fps loss is due to new things being added to the game, this fps loss creep went on all through closed beta where it would get worse then they would do an optimization patch and they would improve again.

You should really think about overclocking to improve in game performance.

I have limited the fps in game and with my vid card. has made no diff. only thing that helps is minimizing it or logging out. as for fps, unfortunately overclocking is not an option for me.

@catamount, aliens don't have botnets to fold and mine for bitcoins.....hackers who get 35 years or death do!

Edited by CooloutAC, 11 October 2013 - 02:35 PM.

[Catamount]

CooloutAC, on 11 October 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

@catamount, aliens don't have botnets to fold and mine for bitcoins.....

Lies. That's what they want you to think. Some day, when the aliens have all the bitcoins, I'm going to get to say I told you so.

They're also doing calculations to figure out how to drop the moon on us, but clearly the bitcoins are by far the biggest concern.

Edited by Catamount, 11 October 2013 - 02:57 PM.

[StainlessSR]

here is the big question.....




Why are you leaving the launcher open so long? The only time it may need to stay open long is when patching, otherwise click play or close it.

[Barbaric Soul]

Catamount, on 11 October 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

Lies. That's what they want you to think. Some day, when the aliens have all the bitcoins, I'm going to get to say I told you so.

[focuspark]

The root cause for both the launcher and mechlab hammering your GPU is Flash. It's the devil and for unknown reasons GPUs started accelerating it.

[nexus1g]

It's the frame rate you're getting while in the 'Mech Lab. Each one of those frames is a buffer swap having to be done on the video card. Stresses it out to the max because without a hard cap, it'll just spit out frames as fast as it possibly can. Enable Vsync if you have a monitor with a high enough refresh rate (75Hz min is my recommendation), or limit it in the drivers.

[1Sascha]

Hmm.. the launcher always kicks the vid-card into "performance-mode" for me. Did it on my old system with a GTX 460 and does it on my new system with a GTX660.

However: On both systems temps were/are still highest for me when I actually play the game.

Let's see:

System idle (more or less): 37°C
Launcher open (not logged in): 38°C
Logged in - on main page: 42°C
Logged in - on Mechlab: 45°C
Playing game: 59°C

All temps are GPU's "max"-values according to CPU-ID HW-Monitor.


GPU isn't OCed (well, technically it is, since it's a Gigabyte OC-edition). CPU is an i5 4670k, OCed to 4.1 on cores 0 and 1 and 4.2 on cores 2 and 3.

Setup/cooling:
Enermax Ostrog GT with 2x 140 front intake, 2x 120 push/pull rear intake - mounted to Corsair H60 radiator. 200mm bitfenix top exhaust. Stock Gigabyte GPU-cooler

Playing at 1080 with everything set to "max".



S.

Edited by 1Sascha, 12 October 2013 - 01:27 AM.

[Catamount]

Yeah the game also gets hottest for me in-game, not when the launcher is running.

[Tarl Cabot]

1. Do you play the game in Full Screen or one of the windowed modes? When in the mechbay, what is your FPS running at, as it is never mentioned? (F9) Playing in one of the windowed modes locks the FPS at 60FPS (for those running higher numbers), while others have added/edited user.cfg file adds the following: sys_MaxFps = 60, 30, etc.

2. As for limiting your FPS in game, do you mean you have edited the user.cfg file. Did you add the file or was it present there for sometime? Basically, are you able to see all of the file extensions and see user.cfg/system.cfg or do you see user.cfg and system? If the 2nd one, enabling extensions will show user.cfg.txt and system.cfg/etc, meaning the user.cfg.txt is not being read by the game.

3. Do you have both system power options set to Best Performance and the nvidia card set to Max performance?
Setting "Power management mode" from Adaptive ... - NVIDIA Support

4. Are you using MSI Afterburner to take more control over GPU fan speeds? Many here have experienced the issue where the fans are not increasing their RPMs til reaching a higher threshold.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 12 October 2013 - 08:08 AM.

[CooloutAC]

nexus1g, on 12 October 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

It's the frame rate you're getting while in the 'Mech Lab. Each one of those frames is a buffer swap having to be done on the video card. Stresses it out to the max because without a hard cap, it'll just spit out frames as fast as it possibly can. Enable Vsync if you have a monitor with a high enough refresh rate (75Hz min is my recommendation), or limit it in the drivers.

mechlap framrate is capped at 60 fps. You can still framerate in mechlab with f9. It makes no diff to the heat..... only minimizing it does....

and apparenlty this has been a known issue for a while now as one poster stated....

Tarl Cabot, on 12 October 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:

1. Do you play the game in Full Screen or one of the windowed modes? When in the mechbay, what is your FPS running at, as it is never mentioned? (F9) Playing in one of the windowed modes locks the FPS at 60FPS (for those running higher numbers), while others have added/edited user.cfg file adds the following: sys_MaxFps = 60, 30, etc.

2. As for limiting your FPS in game, do you mean you have edited the user.cfg file. Did you add the file or was it present there for sometime? Basically, are you able to see all of the file extensions and see user.cfg/system.cfg or do you see user.cfg and system? If the 2nd one, enabling extensions will show user.cfg.txt and system.cfg/etc, meaning the user.cfg.txt is not being read by the game.

3. Do you have both system power options set to Best Performance and the nvidia card set to Max performance?
Setting "Power management mode" from Adaptive ... - NVIDIA Support

4. Are you using MSI Afterburner to take more control over GPU fan speeds? Many here have experienced the issue where the fans are not increasing their RPMs til reaching a higher threshold.

what does any of this have to do with the launcher dude?

as far as fps goes..... http://technewspedia...35-video-cards/ here are fps benchmarks. My 20-40 fps on my rig is normal unfortunately.....amd x4 2.8ghz hd 5870.... but i swear it feels like it dropped alot in the past week or two...

focuspark, on 11 October 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

The root cause for both the launcher and mechlab hammering your GPU is Flash. It's the devil and for unknown reasons GPUs started accelerating it.

but why isn't this true on webpages? very suspicious.... well I should say in windows....because on linux flash can heat up your card dramatically especially with high res and even proprietary drivesr. but in windows not at all...

StainlessSR, on 11 October 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

here is the big question.....




Why are you leaving the launcher open so long? The only time it may need to stay open long is when patching, otherwise click play or close it.

as soon as i open the launcher.....i watch the temps instantly shoot up.....instantly goes from 45 to 80 fps in a matter of minutes..... just starts climbing at a 45 degree angle. and heres whats weird...only 30% gpu usage, which i guess is still high though for just a launcher...

Edited by CooloutAC, 12 October 2013 - 01:38 PM.

[Tarl Cabot]

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as soon as i open the launcher.....i watch the temps instantly shoot up.....instantly goes from 45 to 80 fps in a matter of minutes..... just starts climbing at a 45 degree angle. and heres whats weird...only 30% gpu usage, which i guess is still high though for just a launcher...

Launchpad has a workload, and as mentioned flash is doing most of the work but your system's default fan profile sucks, as does everyone else until they learn how to tweak them. And depending on your settings, the GPU is likely running at a reduced speed.

Anyway, with the launchpad up my HD7950 gpu temp barely budged.. The MSI Afterburner display gives it a bigger slap when brought forward for about 2 seconds. Do you have any web browsers opened?

[Rumble Chicken]

Howdy all,
listening in a little, desktop size & settings w/o mwo running look into resources and check , then with mwo on in your particular area of trouble, check again .. if it jumps to another set of cores there might be the resulting conflict.. but likely mem buffer leaks from Os to core jump is the culprit.

[HugoStiglitz]

It probably has something to do with the fact that they have not been optimizing this UI at all since they started on UI 2.0, that would be my guess.