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[Koniving]

Not bad. Might try that. In the mean time I may turn the ROFLpult into something more serious and try exactly that with an LRM-60 rig. Currently it's an LRM-90 rig.

[Dizzy Strife]

Koniving, on 13 October 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

No need to get away! Just butcher 'em all!


I don't recommend this as a common build to anyone. But to show how 'tanky' a Stalker can be...

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(Heat penalties suffered here. Didn't even know about them hurting SRM-4s in quantities of 4 which were previously okay.)


(Before heat penalties.)

I really need to have Lordred follow me in a flamer stalker. Or even a brawling stalker or my Misery. They're awesome brawling rigs. "Can't turn? Who cares!" RAWR! >.>; I love stalkers. Everything except their feet.

ROFL!! Dude you are epic Koniving. I try to butcher them with my 6 medium lasers when they get in close, but 99% of the time, it's one of those fast little f'ers and they just keep circling behind me so I can't turn on them and take me in the rear without the god d*** common courtesy of a reach around. (virtual cookie if you get the reference )

[King Arthur IV]

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Koniving, on 13 October 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Not bad. Might try that. In the mean time I may turn the ROFLpult into something more serious and try exactly that with an LRM-60 rig. Currently it's an LRM-90 rig.

iv seen your lrm 90 rig...lols

good lolz maybe too risky for everyday pugging but that amount of damage you put out in that short amount of time was incredible.

[skoot]

Dizzy Strife,

Firstly - I applaud your choice - the LRM boat is classic for those with slow reflexes.

I'd like to add that MW:O isn't really a twitch FPS - even in a slow brawler, a cool head will carry you through fights. You'll get screwed over by lights, but that'll happen in your LRM boat too.

So don't approach a role thinking that your shoulder will prevent you from playing it - I'd say that once you get to know the maps you could probably handle a non-combat/pure recon scout. Run around the back of the enemy, tag 'em up, sit back and enjoy the light show!

[Dizzy Strife]

skooter, on 13 October 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

Dizzy Strife,

Firstly - I applaud your choice - the LRM boat is classic for those with slow reflexes.

I'd like to add that MW:O isn't really a twitch FPS - even in a slow brawler, a cool head will carry you through fights. You'll get screwed over by lights, but that'll happen in your LRM boat too.

So don't approach a role thinking that your shoulder will prevent you from playing it - I'd say that once you get to know the maps you could probably handle a non-combat/pure recon scout. Run around the back of the enemy, tag 'em up, sit back and enjoy the light show!

I do plan on trying out other mechs and loadouts whenever I can earn enough C-bills or get lucky and get some donations on my live stream to do so. I do like the looks of some AC and PPC builds that I have seen in videos and while spectating after I go down in battle.

[Koniving]

Might I recommend Blackjacks or Hunchbacks or Jagermechs for those builds when the time comes.

Blackjacks are the shortest mediums in the game right now, this combined with their high-risen arms allows them to shoot over hills with minimal exposure. Their downfall is their slow speed, but since you're not the sort who can get into the thick of it anyway, that won't matter much so long as you have your team between you and them.

Hunchbacks are cheap, solid rigs so long as you follow the golden rule: 46 front right torso armor, 2 rear right torso armor for everything except the 4SP. The Hunch's position is good for those pop-and-shoots, and the mech is sturdy enough to take a bit of a beating. A slower than dirt Hunchback 4G against lights. Dukes it out for 13 minutes of rushes while defending a 90% captured base.

The Jager as I'm sure you've seen, is a big brother to the BlackJack and can carry an array of devastating builds. Among favorites are 4 PPCs + 6 MGs. 3 AC/2s + an AC/20 or Gauss. Twin Gauss. Twin AC/20. Quad AC/5. Rare but fun is the quad UAC/5. Also rare but devastating is the Quad LPL + 6 MGs.

Note: Never fire more than 2 PPCs or 2 LLs at once.

[Dizzy Strife]

Koniving, on 14 October 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

Might I recommend Blackjacks or Hunchbacks or Jagermechs for those builds when the time comes.

Blackjacks are the shortest mediums in the game right now, this combined with their high-risen arms allows them to shoot over hills with minimal exposure. Their downfall is their slow speed, but since you're not the sort who can get into the thick of it anyway, that won't matter much so long as you have your team between you and them.

Hunchbacks are cheap, solid rigs so long as you follow the golden rule: 46 front right torso armor, 2 rear right torso armor for everything except the 4SP. The Hunch's position is good for those pop-and-shoots, and the mech is sturdy enough to take a bit of a beating. A slower than dirt Hunchback 4G against lights. Dukes it out for 13 minutes of rushes while defending a 90% captured base.

The Jager as I'm sure you've seen, is a big brother to the BlackJack and can carry an array of devastating builds. Among favorites are 4 PPCs + 6 MGs. 3 AC/2s + an AC/20 or Gauss. Twin Gauss. Twin AC/20. Quad AC/5. Rare but fun is the quad UAC/5. Also rare but devastating is the Quad LPL + 6 MGs.

Note: Never fire more than 2 PPCs or 2 LLs at once.

Yeah I was thinking a Jager. Mainly because of your videos in the Jager. Lol. I am tempted to buy the Spider mech that is on sale right now just to have another non-trial mech to run around in. I have just enough money to buy it. I want the Jenner, but I don't have the 15 dollars I would need to spend for that one. Lol.

[Koniving]

There isn't a mech on sale at the moment. The champion spider is new, but it's not on sale. As in it's not cheaper than its normal price. Honestly I would not recommend it. Yes, a Spider K can be useful even for a ranged or non-front-line fighter. But everyone wants to kill the spider. It's like carrying a bullseye. They also supposedly work better as fast mechs.

Perhaps wait for the dirt cheap cbill Locust coming around the corner? On the 15th they come out. Shorter, faster, and one of them can carry PPCs while another can carry a single AC and sufficient ammo. A third carries missiles.

That said...spiders! Fast and sniper ones.

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Fast spiders




Slow snipah spiders!




My favorite! The very first time a Spider has EVER killed a Raven (and got published on youtube). Normally it always ends badly for the spider before the recent bugs in projectile HSR.

Edited by Koniving, 14 October 2013 - 12:53 PM.

[Hammerhai]

And get into a group to play with regularly. Most will welcome ppl willing to learn. Get on Teamspeak. look in the pinned threads in new player help or outreach section of the forums for groups.

[Dizzy Strife]

Koniving, on 14 October 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

There isn't a mech on sale at the moment. The champion spider is new, but it's not on sale. As in it's not cheaper than its normal price. Honestly I would not recommend it. Yes, a Spider K can be useful even for a ranged or non-front-line fighter. But everyone wants to kill the spider. It's like carrying a bullseye. They also supposedly work better as fast mechs.

Perhaps wait for the dirt cheap cbill Locust coming around the corner? On the 15th they come out. Shorter, faster, and one of them can carry PPCs while another can carry a single AC and sufficient ammo. A third carries missiles.

That said...spiders! Fast and sniper ones.

Spoiler

Fast spiders




Slow snipah spiders!




My favorite! The very first time a Spider has EVER killed a Raven (and got published on youtube). Normally it always ends badly for the spider before the recent bugs in projectile HSR.

Yeah, I am live streaming right now, and so many people are giving me so many ideas for other mechs to run. Lol. I even mentioned your name and several people knew you. Lol

Hammerhai, on 14 October 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

And get into a group to play with regularly. Most will welcome ppl willing to learn. Get on Teamspeak. look in the pinned threads in new player help or outreach section of the forums for groups.

I will look into that. Just kind of hard for me to get regular groups because my play times or sporadic mainly because I pretty much live stream every day and I play different games for variety on the stream.

[Koniving]

What's your stream?

[Dizzy Strife]

Koniving, on 14 October 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

What's your stream?

www.twitch.tv/dizzystrife

[StarGeezer]

Dizzy's a great guy, followed his stream this evening.

[Dizzy Strife]

StarGeezer, on 14 October 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

Dizzy's a great guy, followed his stream this evening.

You are a great guy as well StarGeezer. Thank you again so much for your generous donation. I am going to love those Phoenix mechs!

[StarGeezer]

Delighted to hear, I know you'll enjoy them.

[Koniving]

Well, that was pretty nice of you StarGeezer. o.o;

Welp, looking forward to seeing them! Tomorrow me and Lordred will be doing screenshots. If you're on around this time tomorrow (9:44 PM Eastern), we'll have you two tag along so we can have more phoenix mechs out there on the field to increase the odds for good shots.

Juggle the colors you get to look unique from the others!

Edited by Koniving, 14 October 2013 - 05:45 PM.

[Dizzy Strife]

Koniving, on 14 October 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Well, that was pretty nice of you StarGeezer. o.o;

Welp, looking forward to seeing them! Tomorrow me and Lordred will be doing screenshots.

Yeah I can't wait to get them. I have colors picks out that I want to get for my mechs whenever I can get the MC and hopefully they go on sale. I showed the stream my idea for my Stalker and they seemed to really like it. I know I will get some colors with the Phoenix package that I can use until then, I am just glad come tomorrow that I won't be stuck with just the puke green and only one mech. LOL. I'll have a bunch to play with.

LOL. You edited your post while I was making mine. That sounds good to me. I doubt you will get any good shots from me, as I still pretty much suck at this game. LOL. I did have my first match tonight where I got 2 kills, 6 assists and did over 400 damage. Normally, I get 0 kills, a few assists and between 100-200 damage. LOL

Oh and yeah I should be on. I have no life, so I am pretty much always playing games and most likely streaming as well.

Edited by Dizzy Strife, 14 October 2013 - 05:50 PM.

[Koniving]

Some of the best shots I've been in were while being absolutely freaking useless. The flamer blackjack? The only blackjack that ever did 29 damage. Still got 6 or 7 awesome shots from it.

The Mech Garage image -- I'm backing up into an alcove in the garage with a 3-tone silver Catapult. Got killed shortly after leaving it. Still named by a few as "the most artistic screenshot ever taken." It even has a formal college-level critique praising it. The biggest irony? It wasn't when I wanted the shot taken. I wanted it taken when I was parked and powered down next to the semi truck bringing components for my mech.

So, all in all, the best shots happen when you least suspect them. Some basic rules: Don't look at the camera. Don't pose. Don't try to look good. Simply play and enjoy the free ECM coverage of the camera protecting you from LRMs. ;

Examples!

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Just looking for enemies.

Found me an Atlas!

Killed me an Atlas!


Me and Wolfmech. Wolf's the stripped one.

Me running my then heat-neutral Twin ER PPC + Gauss 99% front armor XL engine Atlas. The KDR on that thing was insane, and all it'd take to kill me is an MG to the back.


I'm the Cicada here.


Here too.

The following two I'm not proud of. Lordred still took them. I took an AC/20 to the face.


That hurt.


I'm the red and black Muromets here.


The flaming Heavy Metal here.


And here.


The brave Trebuchet here taking on the Atlas with 2 flamers, 2 MGs, 2 SRM-4s. (Ironically I won. But with help.)

Edited by Koniving, 14 October 2013 - 06:11 PM.

[Flagrant]

If you got MC i suggest buying the Victor Dragonslayer. RIght arm has 2 ballistic slots. Get a pair of AC5 and advanced zoom module. Jumpjets to get to prime location and put ER PPC on other slots if you want.

Or get a Blackjack 1. Pair of ballistics and the rest in medium lasers etc. Advanced zoom of course. Jump jets included.

[Koniving]

Flagrant, on 14 October 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

If you got MC i suggest buying the Victor Dragonslayer. RIght arm has 2 ballistic slots. Get a pair of AC5 and advanced zoom module. Jumpjets to get to prime location and put ER PPC on other slots if you want.

About that.. I never really understood what would make the Dragon Slayer any better than a regular Victor. They move all but one of your energy hardpoints to the right torso, meaning you can't have them track your arms like 100% of the other Victors. That sort of boggled my mind. 2 ballistics? Victor 9S. 9B for 3 of them. 3 energy? 9K and they're all on your arm for pinpoint anti-light tracking and killing.

But that's just me. Don't get me wrong, I love Victors. Most of them emulate my Heavy Metal. But I don't see why I'd want the Dragon Slayer, which is essentially reminding me of a standard fare Highlander with 10 fewer tons. Then again some people love weapons in the torso, less chance of being 'off' with your aim. But so much more limited in where you can aim.

Other than the cbill bonus... is there something about it that I'm missing? I've only used it on the public test server and then I only used it stock. Does it have any quirks or other things I might not know of?

Edit: Just thought of a perk it has. It's got the 400 rated engine limit. So you can be insanely fast at the cost of either ammunition, armor, weapons or heatsinks. But don't get me wrong; fast is really good in a Victor. But I'm not sure if I'd want to trade it all. It's hard to trade much at all to get the Pretty Baby to a 385 engine, and it's the same weight and doesn't need to spend it all on the ballistics.

Flagrant, on 14 October 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

Or get a Blackjack 1. Pair of ballistics and the rest in medium lasers etc. Advanced zoom of course. Jump jets included.

That I can back. Though honestly I've been running twin UAC/5s with no trouble at all knocking spiders out of the air, and half a ton in jumpjets. Plenty of ammo. People that I shoot at don't like me when I use it.

Edited by Koniving, 14 October 2013 - 06:26 PM.