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[DragonPup]

So maybe I splurged a little on Project Phoenix.

I came up with this build: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bcb3f49b3c0568f

The armor is nice and heavy(what front/back ratios should I use tho?). And while a little slow, I think it has a nice medium to long range engagement envelope. I am unsure if I want to keep the Artemis orgo for a regular LRM-15 and up the AC/5 to Ultra. The other choice is change the LLas to an ER, but not sure if the heat increase is worth the range. I am a little concerned about the speed, but not having to worry about an XL exploding helps.

Thanks!

[Asyres]

I'd shift the ammo to the legs. Front/back ratio is a bit of a personal choice -- I tend to have 21 ct and 16 st rear armor on heavies, but your mileage may vary.

[MisterPlanetarian]

I might run something simple when Xping all the Phoenix mechs before i Invest in Endo/DHS on 12 mechs. Only have about 13 mil Cbills right now.

3x Large Laser

Upgraded Stock loadout.

Both of these should be pretty effective and neither runs with an XL so I'll stay alive longer than i'm used to. Typically run XL Jagers or Cataphracts alot so these will be refreshing.

[CarnageINC]

IMO the front to back armor ratio depends on the function of your mech. If your a hit and run kind of guy you might want more back armor if someone is shooting at you, if your a standup and fight guy or a long range sniper you might want less back armor.

[IllCaesar]

Looks hot. Can still do a good amount of damage at range before overheating, though close-quarters combat will probably melt the cockpit. Personally, I think I'd drop either the AC or LL to use it as a shield arm and use the weight saved to add heat sinks. Still though, wouldn't want to tangle with that. Oh, and take two points of armour either off the legs or cockpit and add them to your side torsos. You want every bit of armour you can possibly manage on that thing's torsos.

[Eumenes]

What I'm going for: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...91a4475cfb6f373

Almost stock weapons loadout, but I use a spare 280 engine from one of my Cataphracts. The machine guns do help close in, especially with the storm of laser fire.

[Sug]

I'm having issues making an effective build that I can't replicate with my founder's Cat or my Ilya.

I'd like to go ballistic/missiles but then I feel like i've wasted those energy slots. But filling the energy slots makes me feel like my firepower is imbalanced to my left side leaving me vulnerable if I lost my LT. AHHHHHHHH

Edited by Sug, 18 October 2013 - 10:32 AM.

[Odwalla]

Here's the build I've been using: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a4c10452a309875

It's a fast LRM build with decent lasers for CQ, but I primarily fight from range. (The ER LLas is a great filler in between missile cycles). Here's how it did my last game:



The way I see it, LRM are a all or nothing kind of weapon. I don't see a reason to take them unless you get all the perks that make them strong (artemis, BAP, Tag, 6+ tons of ammo, large salvos). It doesn't make a good filler weapon for that reason in my opinion.

But when I want to go ballistics, I do something similar to what I have on my Firebrand: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8c8d3915beae060

[Sug]

Odwalla, on 18 October 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

But when I want to go ballistics, I do something similar to what I have on my Firebrand: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8c8d3915beae060

I like it but I can't bring myself to put an XL in something that big and slow without jumpjets.

[Odwalla]

Sug, on 18 October 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

I like it but I can't bring myself to put an XL in something that big and slow without jumpjets.

Yeah, for me it depends on the loadout. If I go for a brawler build, I always go standard. But since my primary weapons are the AC and LLas, I actually prefer the extra speed XL engines give me. It's all about play style, I think.

[Sug]

Odwalla, on 18 October 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

Yeah, for me it depends on the loadout. If I go for a brawler build, I always go standard. But since my primary weapons are the AC and LLas, I actually prefer the extra speed XL engines give me. It's all about play style, I think.

Also depends on the mech kinda. If I die in a Tbolt it's because i'm a walking CT by the time I'm brought down, my sides always go first. In the Shawk i'm usually killed by CT destruction before anything else so I'll run an XL in those.

For that Tbolt I switched out the torso LLaser for another med, drop some ac ammo, and used a std 270 engine. It's a decent mid/short range mech. It's a rare game where i'll need 90 shots from my ac5s so I haven't noticed the ammo reduction.

Edited by Sug, 18 October 2013 - 07:45 PM.

[wikkedj]

I know it's not very creative.... http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1e9f1d14e97aaec is what I think I'll look at when I get to the thunderbolt.

It's pretty comparable to the loadout I use on several of my mechs, so the buttons are familiar.

Edited by wikkedj, 21 October 2013 - 08:59 AM.

[Zuluplumber]

If I were you, I'd get rid of that large laser for another medium, the range doesn't match up and it makes it awkward. If you have 4 mediums, then you can have only 3 weapon groups instead of 4.

Also, with the reduction in weight (and taking off artemis) you can put Ferro armor on, freeing up enough weight to put an STD 300 in it. This lets you go 74 instead of 64 which is a HUGE speed difference in game.

Always put ammo in legs first, then CT, then head. Only when these are full of ammo do you risk putting them in the side torsos.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f5eba12af10de80

[stjobe]

Here's what I did with mine: Upgraded to Endo-Steel and Double Heat Sinks, upgraded the SRM-2 to a SRM-6, added two tons LRM ammo and four DHS.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...360e9b84f2a5106

I've only dropped seven matches in it so far, but it seems to be doing okay:



At range you use the LRM to soften the enemy, taking pot-shots with the LL as you close on them, then when you get into short range you can pour on the SRM and MLs, and when you get under 180 you switch the MGs for the LRM. The target should be nicely receptive for some MG crits at that point - if it's still standing.

Edited by stjobe, 21 October 2013 - 01:51 PM.

[Gelion]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fedb464ab3835a4

Runs heat neutral. Also only really have to press 2 buttons since there is balance with the ac10 and the LL. Really depends on your playstyle but this has been quite consistent for me.

[Bront]

Gelion, on 25 October 2013 - 04:06 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fedb464ab3835a4

Runs heat neutral. Also only really have to press 2 buttons since there is balance with the ac10 and the LL. Really depends on your playstyle but this has been quite consistent for me.

That's pretty close to what I've been running, though I've got AMS. It's brutal and effective, though I think I want to try to fit a 275 standard in there.

TDR-5S

Runs a little hotter, but is still managable, and it's a bit faster. If you chainfire the MLs, you won't notice the extra heat.

[Eaerie]

I personally dont like having the LLas and AC10 on the same button. The AC10 you have to lead the target sometime but the LLas you want dead on. then put the MLas on one button.

[Kardov]

I am thinking of going with this.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=114&l=1d910e4da95efe3d1ce06726db45aa0f7ec30c42
Long range support until I am dry then move up and mope the left overs with the 2 LPL. I am a new player so any constructive comments will be much appreciated. Thanks

[trollgunner]

Literally the funniest build I could think of. 6 Flamers, 2 Machine guns, ammo. And there you have it.

[Macksheen]

I don't consider LRMs all or nothing, but I do think the mix you have could use a bit of focus. One issue many of us have (myself included) is this compulsion to try to use many / most of the hardpoints and weapon locations ... that can lead to some crazy weapon sets.

I echo the statements about armor shfiting and ammo placement.