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[PinkyAndTheBrain]

Hi does anyone have any comment on the Battlemaster's hitboxes? Does it favor an XL over a standard engine? Or will running a standard engine be better cos ur sides get blown off easily?

[Bishop Steiner]

uses both fines, does not use shoulder missiles terribly well. If using missiles, avoid XL. If using missiles, expect to walk around with half a mech from time to time.

[RF Greywolf]

You need to use the GIGANTIC shoulder pads to absorb damage. As long as your twisting it is a very durable mech. Just make sure to keep your legs turning to keep the crotch from getting hit.

[Shadey99]

My take from shooting them is that the CT is an easy target even from the side, sde torsos are harder to hit unless the have a box launcher filled. I haven't worked my way up to BMs yet for my own playtest... Soon I'll tweak them all and take them for a spin...

[NRP]

Hit boxes are fine in my experience. It's a very durable mech, even with an XL. It's funny, I've never lost an arm, it's always a side torso or CT. The arms can absorb ridiculous amounts of damage. So if you torso twist even a little bit, the Battlemaster can tank a lot of damage.

But the Battlemaster has other drawbacks/annoyances that make a "not very good" mech for my tastes/play style.

[Genesis Rex]

It kind of feels like you're piloting a more compact Atlas. I've been running the Phoenix BMR with a 300 standard, and a kitted out for command/support and it works beautifully. As it has been pointed out earlier in this thread the shoulders make great shields, though the missile pod on the left takes a lot of damage.

Personal bias tells me to advise you against running an XL, but the choice is yours. You may enjoy an XL on the -1S if you want to boat missiles AND go faster than 51kph.

[DONTOR]

Yep Im using XLs and making sure not to have missles in any of the torsos. CT is pretty big, most seem to go for it, arms absorb damage as stated previously, and the 80+ kph assult is very nice.

[C E Dwyer]

Not found the torso missiles a problem, brawling with my Asrm BLR-1s
Not brave enough to slap an XL in so can't coment on its success
What I do find ironic is its an energy mech its well known for being one, yet its best builds are balistic/missile load outs, with a few lasers thrown in to fill up places

[Phelantau]

I'm loving the hitboxes on my BLR-1D. I have an XL in there and have rarely lost a side before the center goes. But the center is a hit magnet at least when I run it. I haven't ran an XL on my S or G so I don't know how the missle boxes effect it, but even running a standard my center usually goes first. It's nothing like running my Ilya where I was always losing my sides.

Edited by Phelantau, 23 October 2013 - 08:46 PM.

[627]

I do loose my side torso and with it that XL360 in my 1D. So it's pretty easy if you aim for it (what i've seen from the other side).

All comes down to your Elo and playstyle, i don't think this is a first tier brawler so stay back and XL it.

[Bishop Steiner]

Cathy, on 17 October 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:

Not found the torso missiles a problem, brawling with my Asrm BLR-1s
Not brave enough to slap an XL in so can't coment on its success
What I do find ironic is its an energy mech its well known for being one, yet its best builds are balistic/missile load outs, with a few lasers thrown in to fill up places

my 1S is a compromise.
2 ASRM6 in the arms
2 PPC
2 Large Laser.

Dunno if it's a "boat" but it works for me.
My 1G gets 2 AC5, 2 PPC and 4 Mlasers. So I think it counts as an energy boat.

My 1D, well, still working on that.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I have been running my Battlemaster with an XL. I approve of it.

[Silentium]

Are you running XL in those bishop?

[Kraven Kor]

Dat CT.

Seriously, even with torso twisting, even with the shoulder target, I die to CT-coring more than anything.

The arms are great shields but you can still get CT cored even when being hit from the side.

It is not a bad mech though; just not a great brawler, in my opinion. It's King Hippo; just punch the poor ******* in the belly button and win.

[Bishop Steiner]

Silentium, on 24 October 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

Are you running XL in those bishop?

yessir. All my BLRs have XLs. Actually, all my PHX mechs do now. They seem to tank em like a Boss. I die to CT death more than anything, and even then it's after taking a LOT of damage.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Bishop Steiner, on 24 October 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

yessir. All my BLRs have XLs. Actually, all my PHX mechs do now. They seem to tank em like a Boss. I die to CT death more than anything, and even then it's after taking a LOT of damage.

I used to think that Assaults require STD engines due to their tanking ability and that running an XL engine was just ridiculous. The Victor has changed my mind on that. Plus, I can't see piloting a Battlemaster with a STD engine.

Now mind you, I do not like Assaults that much anyway due to their slow speeds and clumsy movements so I have no patience for a STD engined Assault. Still, I think the Battlemaster and Victor use those engines well. Maybe larger Assaults like the Atlas and Stalker might still be better with a STD engine...and that is why I don't pilot them.;

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 25 October 2013 - 08:06 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

MeiSooHaityu, on 25 October 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

I used to think that Assaults require STD engines due to their tanking ability and that running an XL engine was just ridiculous. The Victor has changed my mind on that. Plus, I can't see piloting a Battlemaster with a STD engine.

Now mind you, I do not like Assaults that much anyway due to their slow speeds and clumsy movements so I have no patience for a STD engined Assault. Still, I think the Battlemaster and Victor use those engines well. Maybe larger Assaults like the Atlas and Stalker might still be better with a STD engine...and that is why I don't pilot them.;

Highlander does pretty solid with XLs, too. The arms and torso protect it pretty well, as do the JJs.

On some mechs, like the Atlas and Stalker, yeah, no XLs. But the flip side to many fights, is that one might need to tank less if one had sufficient firepower to end the engagement fast.

[Vodrin Thales]

Kraven Kor, on 24 October 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

Dat CT.

Seriously, even with torso twisting, even with the shoulder target, I die to CT-coring more than anything.

The arms are great shields but you can still get CT cored even when being hit from the side.

It is not a bad mech though; just not a great brawler, in my opinion. It's King Hippo; just punch the poor ******* in the belly button and win.

CT is very hard to hit from the side if the mech has it's shoulder fully towards you. If it is just a bit off that 90 degree angle though it can be hit.

[blacklp]

Phoenix Battlemaster with a 400XL is frighteningly agile.
It does terrible things to other mechs.
Unspeakable horrible terrible things.

[WarHippy]

blacklp, on 25 October 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Phoenix Battlemaster with a 400XL is frighteningly agile.
It does terrible things to other mechs.
Unspeakable horrible terrible things.

This man speaks the truth. I have 400XL in mine as well, 6ML, 1 PPC, and 1 SRM6. Makes for a lot of fun.