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[Blood78]

I recall that while we may not be able to spend our LP because that part of game is not in. However we an still earn them and essentially bank them.

Based on that premise I have already selected my medals and have been running them to start grinding out LP to bank it much as possible. Then I realized I don't see how much LP I have earned nor I can see how much I have banked so far.

Please addres this. Now I feel like I picked my medallions for no good reason and should have waited before selecting them if I can't even earn and bank my LP ahead of others.

[Fabian Wrede]

Don't Think loyalty Points been added yet

[Blood78]

I distinctively remember PGI saying that they can track LP and how much we banked from one of the Ask the devs. Just that features to spend them has not been implemeneted.

I don't think they clarified if they would turn them on or not. So I wanted clarification on if they did turn it on or not. If they didn't turn on the ability for us to bank LP. Then I'm going to inform my unit to not select medallion and wait till later.

[Trynn]

I was at the understanding of while the mechanism to track them was in place, it was not going to be used until CW came out.

[Blood78]

Trynn, on 16 October 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

I was at the understanding of while the mechanism to track them was in place, it was not going to be used until CW came out.

I found the post, it was from ATD46? They said don't be surprised if its not on (to bank LP) but never clarified if it is actually turn on or not as part of patch note. I'm assuming not turned on since we cannot see any LP... Now I feel bit foolish to have chosen my medallions already.

[Orbit Rain]

I'm curious about this also, seems like they might be tracking it at the moment to get an idea of the faction loyalty overall, and how they want to adjust/implement the thing. I think we should be allowed at some point to change our medallion choices, probably particularly for people who didn't/don't know, and it isn't clear, that you can pick multiples of the same faction. I would think the easiest thing for PGI would be to reset the choices, and allow peole to re-choose once some solid information/plan comes out...at this point we're choosing something with little idea whether they are good or bad choices when it comes down to actual community warfare.

[Deathlike]

Trynn, on 16 October 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

I was at the understanding of while the mechanism to track them was in place, it was not going to be used until CW came out.

They kinda did this for a patch that did some "ELO correction", so doing this for Loyalty points sounds about right.

There's an inherent advantage for playing here longer, so there's probably a starting/cutoff point from where it grabs its data from.

Translation: Loyalty points will be "retroactive".

Edited by Deathlike, 17 October 2013 - 11:36 AM.

[Svidro]

http://mwomercs.com/...vs-48-answered/
Pertinent section:
From a contingency POV - we currently track the game rules that award and remove LP, we can easily replay our telemetry for several months and retroactively set a player’s standing with each of the factions. However, this may not be ideal, as players will have very little control over the accumulation of LP for the different factions and may start them off on a bad footing.

In the end, I feel most players will be understanding and know that the LP boost will come online in the near future when players can associate themselves officially with a faction and meet matched correctly. Players will have access to all the content they paid for and the added bonuses will automatically take effect when the remaining features are turned on.

[RadioKies]

As far as I know they are keeping track on the backend. When CW is released they are going to think about giving out allready earned LP or just letting everyone start at 0. They don't know what to do with it, but it is being tracked.

You won't see any of it untill CW, because if you could see your allready earned LP, and they give you 20% of the LP, you might go scream murder! So it is better not to see and get something or nothing than to give you some information about your progress.

Edited by RadioKies, 17 October 2013 - 11:57 AM.

[EOD Operator]

So one would wonder if there would be a benefit for picking factions now and running with them or not. I would tend to believe that it's better to start now, just in case they do retroactively give points. If they aren't going to do that, I can see where one might wish to wait. Who knows if you'll still want a particular faction by the time it goes live?

[RadioKies]

It's not like you're stuck with the faction you pick. To get into the Wolfs Dragoon (?) you must get the maximum points with all factions.

@Blood78 below me
I didn't know you'd get LP bonus for the medallion. Thought it was just a trinket. In light of that, why yes, I can understand why someone could get upset. Allthough I don't think PGI would ever give anyone enough LP (if they even would do it) to max out the LP amount you can get. So even if you get LP you'll still benifit from the bonus.

Edited by RadioKies, 18 October 2013 - 10:51 AM.

[Blood78]

RadioKies, on 18 October 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

It's not like you're stuck with the faction you pick. To get into the Wolfs Dragoon (?) you must get the maximum points with all factions.

Point isn't that you get stuck. Point is that some people are already selecting medallions which gives faction LP boost. But if LP isn't going to be counted and banked at the moment. It doesn't make sense for people to chose medals now since people won't be earning any LP from having the Phoenix Package Medallion in the cockpit.

Hence we want confirmation and clarification if LP banking is on or off. Some members in my unit chose medallions already, some haven't because PGI did not make this clear.

Edited by Blood78, 18 October 2013 - 10:08 AM.

[Svidro]

PGI did make it clear. Just not everyone has read what they wrote. They probably should have sent a forum message to every account that got a phoenix package rather than making people look for it, however.

[Camalus]

Taken from ATD #48:

Quote

Answer from Bryan:The good news is we already have the ability to track and earn loyalty points. It’s been in the game since we went Open Beta and could be turned on for October 15th. Our main concern is pretty straight forward. We’d prefer waiting to turn them on when players can actually pick their faction AND be matched against their enemies. Until this functionality happens we’re going to hold back adding and removing LP from player accounts. From a contingency POV - we currently track the game rules that award and remove LP, we can easily replay our telemetry for several months and retroactively set a player’s standing with each of the factions. However, this may not be ideal, as players will have very little control over the accumulation of LP for the different factions and may start them off on a bad footing.

In the end, I feel most players will be understanding and know that the LP boost will come online in the near future when players can associate themselves officially with a faction and meet matched correctly. Players will have access to all the content they paid for and the added bonuses will automatically take effect when the remaining features are turned on.

[Svidro]

way to requote the quote.

[Camalus]

Well it wasn't in quotes

[Blood78]

Ah damn eet. They really should've made that clearer along with patch notes. Oh well, I guess I'm stuck with 4 medals I picked. Thanks everyone!