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[Avengar]

most of these new mech I got with the project phoenix or whatever it's called feel like junk, only the shadowhawk is any good but it seems too big

[Roland]

The mechs are actually better than I expected. I've found workable configurations for all of them.

(although calling the locust workable may be a bit of a stretch)

[LauLiao]

Sorry you feel that way but I was actually impressed with how viable most of them were. I didn't expect much out of the Locust, but I was mostly a Medium pilot before this, but I LOVE the Battlemasters and the T-Bolt is fun, although I'm not as adept with that baby yet.

[Sandpit]

Avengar, on 21 October 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

most of these new mech I got with the project phoenix or whatever it's called feel like junk, only the shadowhawk is any good but it seems too big

subjective. not sure what you were wanting to accomplish with this thread? just to tell other players you didn't like it? uhm ok. I like em. Great value and tons of mechs to play with now

[Cerlin]

When I bought them only the Shadow hawk looked good but I have been happy with everything but the locust. I am very happy with my buy, and I am enjoying the mechs. Mess with Engines if they do not feel good. The TBolt needs a big XL in my opinion. I do like 300% better with an XL 315. The BM is a good support mech for me.

[Risko Vinsheen]

I've actually been having a blast with the Locusts and have actually gotten good enough with them that I don't always die in a blaze of glory (only about 60% of the time) but I tend to at least take one or two folks down with me.

Shadow Hawk is just hella fun all over. My only issue with it is feeling useless after I run out of ammo and am left with only one or two Medium Lasers to pew pew with.

Thunderbolt I haven't put too much time into playing with but what little I did with it was enjoyable. Just waiting until I finish up the other three before really diving into it.

Battlemaster is a really fun Assault mech. Don't think it will replace the Victor as my favorite but I think I might enjoy it more than the Highlander and Atlas.

[Justo]

Avengar, on 21 October 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

most of these new mech I got with the project phoenix or whatever it's called feel like junk, only the shadowhawk is any good but it seems too big

i wasnt too keen on the Battlemaster myself at first. then i tossed in an XL390, 2 AC/5s and 6 MLs. yeah...not worthless what so ever.

[Bishop Steiner]

Roland, on 21 October 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

The mechs are actually better than I expected. I've found workable configurations for all of them.

(although calling the locust workable may be a bit of a stretch)

But Locust lances can be OH so fun, lol. I was trolling last night with some other HARD members, in a Locust lance. We accounted for over 1500 damage and 5 kills on Tourmaline. Killing that THUD took positively forever though. Smaller maps, not so good, lol.

THUDs are the ones I am least in love with, sadly, but even they, once I stopped using "conventional" wisdom, are starting to shape up. Never going to be the Alpha Monster a Jager can be, but it is remarkably tough if I remember to twist. Just wish it's largely laser loadout didn't somewhat impede that.

In most cases, the Shoulder hunches I would have expected to = death on them. Turns out, on all but my BLRs, they tank just fine with the Hunch and an XL, which has my Hunchies turning green with envy. Biggest mistake I am still seeing on the PHX is people either eschewing XLs for "survivability", or running about in such over-engined monstrosities that they have peas shooters for firepower. All of them are much more generalist mechs that IMO; work best either at or slightly above stock speeds, with XLs and armed to the gills.

[Gamgee]

I agree with OP. I love killing me some Phoenix mechs. They tend to not perform as well as the older ones. It makes me question why they even made them. Oh right I think I know why. They needed money, but at least people here are generous right? PGI is getting money to continue the game. You get some basic mechs to work up towards better ones. Awesome. I love PGI.

[William T Riker]

As someone who has only fought them, they seem fine. Except locusts, they're worthless.

Battlemasters are beasts =/.

[Blahberry]

I kill all Phoenix mechs alike. The player base has declined, and the ones loyal or silly enough to stay are paying the consequences of having mechs that will never perform as good as they had hoped.

[MadKobold]

thunderbolt (amazing!!), battlemaster (ct is huge otherwise great) and shadowhawk (so good) are all good mechs. I'm sorry you got the impression that the phoenix pack was p2w.

i got what i paid for and what i paid for were classic mechs that got me into battletech many years ago.

Edited by MadKobold, 21 October 2013 - 01:37 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gamgee, on 21 October 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

I agree with OP. I love killing me some Phoenix mechs. They tend to not perform as well as the older ones. It makes me question why they even made them. Oh right I think I know why. They needed money, but at least people here are generous right? PGI is getting money to continue the game. You get some basic mechs to work up towards better ones. Awesome. I love PGI.

Um, there might be a reason for that.

Because 1) They are not unlocked, hence, not as agile or cool running, and 2) Have not had time to optimize their builds yet, especially those of use trying to grind out 12 different mechs. But hey, if ya feel we are easy targets, all can say is "come at me bro!"

[Gamgee]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Um, there might be a reason for that.

Because 1) They are not unlocked, hence, not as agile or cool running, and 2) Have not had time to optimize their builds yet, especially those of use trying to grind out 12 different mechs. But hey, if ya feel we are easy targets, all can say is "come at me bro!"

Very easy.

[Khobai]

Sadly all the phoenix mechs are below average. But I bought them more for the cbill bonus and loyalty bonus.

[Bishop Steiner]

Khobai, on 21 October 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Sadly all the phoenix mechs are below average. But I bought them more for the cbill bonus and loyalty bonus.

hey look! Khobai continuing to try and take the Eeyore crown from Vassago. (shocker that!)

Sorry Colonel Sanders, but you're wrong! Freakign Shad could be the best medium in the game, and the BLR is just fine. Thud, well, that is a bit sub standard.

[The BootyWarrior]

Avengar, on 21 October 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

most of these new mech I got with the project phoenix or whatever it's called feel like junk, only the shadowhawk is any good but it seems too big

i feel you man its kind of ******** how my shadow hawk is bigger than some heavies carries less guns and in some cases heavies run faster than me if i want to actually bring some heat, o and the armor absolutely sucks balls on the shadow hawk.... gotta love getting you CT armor melted after 3 secs of combat, all in all it really just needs a big speed bump and maybe some more armor FFS

[Bishop Steiner]

Stoney Bignut, on 21 October 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

i feel you man its kind of ******** how my shadow hawk is bigger than some heavies carries less guns and in some cases heavies run faster than me if i want to actually bring some heat, o and the armor absolutely sucks balls on the shadow hawk.... gotta love getting you CT armor melted after 3 secs of combat, all in all it really just needs a big speed bump and maybe some more armor FFS

looks like somebody doesn't know how to torso twist.

[DoktorVivi]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

hey look! Khobai continuing to try and take the Eeyore crown from Vassago. (shocker that!)

Sorry Colonel Sanders, but you're wrong! Freakign Shad could be the best medium in the game, and the BLR is just fine. Thud, well, that is a bit sub standard.

Hey man, I love my Thud.

That said, I also love my Dragons.

YMMV

[verybad]

I've done worst in the Battlemasters so far, but the "fast Battlemaster" system seems like it coudl work for me, I do like me some fast moving mechs. I'm not an assault pilot by nature.

The Locust can be a lot of fun, and if you pop an arty and or air strike on them, they can be even mroe fun, theyr;e just SOOOoooo maneuverable.

Shad is probably my favorite of the group, the Thud with jets my second. Overall however, I'm very happy with the Phoenix mechs, I played more this weekend then I had in over 4 months.

Edited by verybad, 21 October 2013 - 04:03 PM.