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[Dawnstealer]

We need the Hatchetman, Zeus, King Crab, Wolfhound, and Assassin.

...And the Ares, which only I will be allowed to pilot because reasons.

[Joseph Mallan]

NextGame, on 28 October 2013 - 12:47 AM, said:

good list, but theres stuff missing from it, like Atlas II and Annihilator, and that's just looking at 100 ton mechs beginning with A.

Alas II Ok Annihilator... Was a Dragoon's specific Mech so unless every House loves you, nobody should have one.

[Shadey99]

Barantor, on 28 October 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

Wolfhound was already around for a while (3028), just it's variants aren't very different at all.

Use this site, search wolfhound, then sort by date.
http://masterunitlist.info/

Then cross reference it with sarna to get the hardpoints on the ones sarna lists.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page

I also tend to discount ones made in the Star League era and try to find out if they are lostech. Some are and even though they were very popular, are probably super rare since their factories haven't been around in sometimes hundreds of years.

Adridos, on 28 October 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

There are much more holes in this list than that.

For instance, the Emperor is extinct by now and EMP-X doesn't even exit, so it lacks the 3rd variant.

Yes, you two should go do that... I just cut the obvious fluff from the list because It's not easy to you know... research and type in another web tab on a tablet.

[Bounty Dogg]

Ack, sorry Joseph, but the Atlas II's all left with Kerensky according to Sarna:

Quote

when General Aleksandr Kerensky] put out his call for loyal forces to join him in his Exodus, every Atlas II pilot responded and left with him, leaving none of these designs behind. These 'Mechs are prized by the Clans when they were found. One such 'Mech was spotted in 3052 during the [/color]Battle of Tukayyid
^6]
In the early 3070s, the design was resurrected by the [/color]Word of Blake when they captured Hesperus II's factories. After the liberation of Defiance Industries, Devlin Stone's coalition forces kept the 'Mechs in production.^[6]

Edited by Bounty Dogg, 28 October 2013 - 10:04 AM.

[Macbrea]

Think this is the list he wanted.. though, I just put it in order by tonnage.

Mssing Mechs	mech
15 tons	Flea (1, FLE-14)
20 tons	Flea (3, FLE-4, FLE-15, FLE-17)
20 tons	Hornet (2, HNT-151, HNT-152)
20 tons	Locust (7, LCT-1E, LCT-1L, LCT-1M, LCT-1S, LCT-1Vb, LCT-3D, LCT-3V)
20 tons	Mercury (3, MCY-97, MCY-98, MCY-99)
20 tons	Stinger (4, STG-3G, STG-3Gb, STG-3R, STG-5M)
20 tons	Thorn (5, THE-F, THE-N, THE-Nb, THE-S, THE-T)
20 tons	Wasp (8, WSP-1, WSP-1A, WSP-1D, WSP-1K, WSP-1L, WSP-1S, WSP-1W, WSP-3W)
25 tons	Commando (3, COM-1A, COM-1C, COM-5S)
25 tons	Jackrabbit (2, JKR-8T, JKR-9R)
25 tons	Mongoose (6, MON-66, MON-66b, MON-67, MON-68, MON-69, MON70)
25 tons	Sling (2, SL-1G, SL-1H)
25 tons	Super Wasp (1, WSP-2A-X)
30 tons	Falcon (2, FLC-4N, FLC-4P)
30 tons	Firebee (1, WAM-A)
30 tons	Firefly (4, FFL-3A, FFL-4A, FFL-4B, FFL-4C)
30 tons	Hermes (7, HER-1A, HER-1B, HER-1S, HER-1Sb, HER-3S, HER-3S1, HER-3S2)
30 tons	Hussar (4, HSR-200-D, HSR-200-Db, HSR-300-D, HSR-350-D)
30 tons	Javelin (3, JVN-10F, JVN-10N, JVN-10P)
30 tons	Urbanmech (4, UM-R50, UM-R60, UM-R60L, UM-R63)
30 tons	Valkyrie (3, VLK-QA, VLK-QD, VLK-QF)
35 tons	Firebee (2, FRB-1E(WAM-B ), FRB-2E)
35 tons	Firestarter (6, FS9-A, FS9-H, FS9-K, FS9-M, FS9-S, FS9-S1)
35 tons	Jenner (2, JR7-A, JR7-C)
35 tons	Night Hawk (1, NTK-2Q)
35 tons	Ostscout (3, OTT-7J, OTT-7Jb, OTT-7K)
35 tons	Panther (2, PNT-8Z, PNT-9R)
35 tons	Raven (2, RVN-1X, RVN-3X)
35 tons	Spector (1, SPR-4F)
35 tons	Talon (2, TLN-5V, TLN-5W)
35 tons	Venom (1, SDR-9K)
35 tons	Wolfhound (3, WLF-1, WLF-1A, WLF-1B)
40 tons	Assassin (3, ASN-101, ASN-21, ASN-23)
40 tons	Clint (4, CLNT-1-2R, CLNT-2-3T, CLNT-2-3U, CLNT-2-4T)
40 tons	Hermes II (4, HER-2K, HER-2M, HER-2S, HER-4K)
40 tons	Icarus (2, ICR-1X, ICR-1S)
40 tons	Liberator (1, LIB-4T)
40 tons	Sentinel (7, STN-1S, STN-3K, STN-3KA, STN-3KB, STN-3L, STN-3Lb, STN-3M)
40 tons	Vulcan (4, VL-2T, VL-5T, VT-5M, VT-5S)
40 tons	Whitworth (4, WTH-0, WTH-1, WTH-1S, WTH-2)
45 tons	Blackjack (2, BJ-1DB, BJ-3)
45 tons	Eisenfaust (2, EFT-2, EFT-4J)
45 tons	Hacthetman (3, HCT-3F, HCT-3NH, HCT-5S)
45 tons	Kyudo (2, KY2-D-01, KY2-D-02)
45 tons	Phoenix Hawk (11, PXH-1, PXH-1b, PXH-1c, PXH-1D, PXH-1K, PXH-1Kk, PXH-2, PXH-3D, PXH-3K, PXH-3M, PXH-3S)
45 tons	Vindicator (4, VND-1AA, VND-1R, VND-1SIC, VND-1X)
45 tons	Wyvern (4, WVE-5N, WVE-5Nb, WVE-5Nsl, WVE-6N)
50 tons	Centurion (1, CN9-AH)
50 tons	Chameleon (2, TRC-4B, CLN-7V)
50 tons	Crab (4, CRB-20, CRB-27, CRB-27b, CRB-27sl)
50 tons	Enforcer (2, ENF-4R, ENF-5D)
50 tons	Galahad (2, GLH-1D, GLH-2D)
50 tons	Hunchback (2, HBK-4N, HBK-5M)
50 tons	Phoenix (3, PX-1R, PX-3R, PX-4R)
50 tons	Rifleman (3, RFL-1N, RFL-2N, RFL-3N)
50 tons	Shadow Hawk (1, SHD-1R)
50 tons	Starslayer (1, STY-2C)
50 tons	Talos (1, TLS-1B)
50 tons	Trebuchet (1, TRB-5S)
55 tons	Alfar (2, AL-A1, AL-D1)
55 tons	Cronus (1, CNS-3M)
55 tons	Dervish (4, DV-1S, DV-6M, DV-6Mb, DV-7D)
55 tons	Gladiator (4, GLD-1R, GLD-2R, GLD-3R, GLD-4R)
55 tons	Griffin (2, GRF-1DS, GRF-2N)
55 tons	Hoplite (6, HOP-4A, HOP-4B, HOP-4Bb, HOP-4C, HOP-4Cb, HOP-4D)
55 tons	Kintaro (1, KTO-19b)
55 tons	Lynx (2, LNX-8Q, LNX-9Q)
55 tons	Osprey (1, OSP-15)
55 tons	Scorpion (2, SCP-1N, SCP-1O)
55 tons	Shadow Hawk (4, SHD-2D, SHD-2Hb, SHD-2K, SHD-3H)
55 tons	Wolverine (4, WVR-6M, WVR-7D, WVR-7M, WVR-7H)
60 tons	Champion (4, CHP-1N, CHP-1N2, CHP-1Nb, CHP-2N)
60 tons	Crossbow (3, CRS-6B, CRS-6C, CRS-X)
60 tons	Galahad (2, GLD-1D, GLD-2D)
60 tons	Grand Dragon (4, DRG-1G, DRG-5K, DRG-5K-DC, DRG-C)
60 tons	Lancelot (6, LNC25-01, LNC25-01sl, LNC25-01X, LNC25-02, LNC-25-03, LNC25-05)
70 tons	Shootist (1, ST-8A)
70 tons	Guillotine (4, GLT-3N, GLT-4L, GLT-4P, GLT-5M)
70 tons	Grasshopper (2, GHR-5J, GHR-5N)
90 tons	Emperor (3, EMP-X, EMP-5A, EMP-6A)

Edited by Macbrea, 28 October 2013 - 10:45 AM.

[3rdworld]

You are missing the Guillotine.

70 tons 4 variants

GLT-3N 2499
GLT-4L 2825
GLT-4P 2833
GLT-5M 3049

Unfortunately they are all pretty much identical.

Edit:

And the Grasshopper

70 tons

Edited by 3rdworld, 28 October 2013 - 10:32 AM.

[Macbrea]

there you go.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dawnstealer, on 28 October 2013 - 09:37 AM, said:

We need the Hatchetman, Zeus, King Crab, Wolfhound, and Assassin.

...And the Ares, which only I will be allowed to pilot because reasons.

Hatchetman: No Melee, no use.

Zeus: 5 ton heavier Orion. Would look cool, not a lot else, but would be OK with.

King Crab: PGI is scared to give multi-ballistic locations to assaults, Strum is scared to alter pointless crits ( ) and The art department is scared of my redesign.

Wolfhound: Not enough variants, and slow laser boat is boring and outclassed by every other light on the field save the Locust.

Assassin: I would love it, but it would probably need to be sized like a Spider's big brother to stand a chance. Plus rare, and not many variants. Woiuld personally prefer the Vulcan, but would love to see more 40 tonners, period.

[MisterPlanetarian]

It's inevitable that we will get an Assault Mech with two or more ballistic mount locations. I'd rather see one before Clans arrive atleast, the King Crab is one of the main ones used at this time even.

[Fate 6]

FupDup, on 28 October 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

Another reason why our current hardpoint system blows when it comes to distinguishing mech roles/strengths.

^
Being able to maximize armor in anything also does that - the Thunderbolt would be a god among men if the other heavies couldn't simply up their armor to be on the same level of durability.

PGI has been getting hardpoint happy ever since the Jagermech - a lot of the mechs since then have had a huge abundance of extra hardpoints, and the Phoenix mechs have only added to that. Mechs that only have an LRM and SRM stock are now capable of 4 LRM 15s, what's up with that (Highlander I'm looking at you)?

[SgtMagor]

Ready for Duty!

Edited by SgtMagor, 28 October 2013 - 04:07 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

SgtMagor, on 28 October 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Ready for Duty!

will somebody get this many his Banshee so he can be as disappointed as all the Orion fanatics were, already?

[WhoDidTheElf]

Honestly though, we need more weapons before we get more mechs. I feel my builds are all too similar with the limited weapon offerings...

[Alex Warden]

My favourites of which i would like to see, regardless of # of variants, but i try to leave the unseen out...correct me if i have some listed my most prefered are underlined and bulk

20 tons:

Stinger (4, STG-3G, STG-3Gb, STG-3R, STG-5M)

Wasp (8, WSP-1, WSP-1A, WSP-1D, WSP-1K, WSP-1L, WSP-1S, WSP-1W, WSP-3W)

Hornet (2, HNT-151, HNT-152)


30 tons:

Javelin (3, JVN-10F, JVN-10N, JVN-10P)

Valkyrie (3, VLK-QA, VLK-QD, VLK-QF)

35 tons:

Panther (2, PNT-8Z, PNT-9R)
Wolfhound (3, WLF-1, WLF-1A, WLF-1B)

40 tons:

Assassin (3, ASN-101, ASN-21, ASN-23)

Clint (4, CLNT-1-2R, CLNT-2-3T, CLNT-2-3U, CLNT-2-4T)

Hermes II (4, HER-2K, HER-2M, HER-2S, HER-4K)

Whitworth (4, WTH-0, WTH-1, WTH-1S, WTH-2)

45 tons:

Vindicator (4, VND-1AA, VND-1R, VND-1SIC, VND-1X)

50 tons:

Enforcer (2, ENF-4R, ENF-5D)

Starslayer (1, STY-2C)

55 tons:

Dervish (4, DV-1S, DV-6M, DV-6Mb, DV-7D)

Gladiator (4, GLD-1R, GLD-2R, GLD-3R, GLD-4R)

Hoplite (6, HOP-4A, HOP-4B, HOP-4Bb, HOP-4C, HOP-4Cb, HOP-4D)

60 tons:

Champion (4, CHP-1N, CHP-1N2, CHP-1Nb, CHP-2N)

Crossbow (3, CRS-6B, CRS-6C, CRS-X)

Grand Dragon (4, DRG-1G, DRG-5K, DRG-5K-DC, DRG-C)

Lancelot (6, LNC25-01, LNC25-01sl, LNC25-01X, LNC25-02, LNC-25-03, LNC25-05)

70 tons:

Shootist (1, ST-8A)
Grashopper (2, GHR-5J, GHR-5N)

90 tons:

Emperor (3, EMP-X, EMP-5A, EMP-6A)

Edited by Alex Warden, 28 October 2013 - 07:51 PM.

[Kazairl]

What about the Thug?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thug

[3rdworld]

Alex Warden, on 28 October 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

70 tons:

Shootist (1, ST-8A)
Grashopper (2, GHR-5J, GHR-5N)

The grasshopper has 3.

GHR-5H is missing from your list, and Macbrea's as well

[mike29tw]

Not really familiar with battletech lore, but I have to say this:

WE NEED MORE CHICKEN WALKERS.

[stjobe]

mike29tw, on 29 October 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

WE NEED MORE CHICKEN WALKERS.

No, no we don't.

Three out of five lights are chicken-walkers. That's quite enough.

Edited by stjobe, 29 October 2013 - 06:40 AM.

[Shadey99]

stjobe, on 29 October 2013 - 06:39 AM, said:

No, no we don't.

Three out of five lights are chicken-walkers. That's quite enough.

But but... What about the Mercury and Hussar! We need more fast recon lights...! Don't leave the poor Locusts alone...

[Ngamok]

kevin roshak, on 28 October 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

The majority of these mechs are out of the timeline or dont have 3 variants that are different.

I like your sig, Ebon Jaguar FTW.