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#21 Koniving

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:14 PM

This was in another Jester thread but that was a rant thread and I don't want to lose what was said... So here we go.

View PostKoniving, on 29 October 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

Truth be told I'm unhappy with the Jester. (Honestly Cheshire would've been better). Likely legal reasons here or so a comrade mentioned the possibility of. The colors are quite meh. Thank God we can paint these! But I do foresee many Why So Serious jokes. I'm actually surprised we didn't get something with a very angry face (because it'd be mad, get it?).

Before you get the wrong idea, it's not the paint job that has me iffy. I like the idea and would've been much more "Oh yeah! Awesome!" if it had the Cheshire name (considering how old the character is, as in literally there were statues of almost the exact same cat dating to pre 1000 AD in India, I don't personally see how legal issues could occur there but meh).

From the look of it here, we've got 6 energy hardpoints and that's an if and maybe.
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Looks like 1 per arm, 1 per side torso, 2 per CT (the smaller circles). Dual AMS. It's been said it's a cross between a C1 and and a K2 and aside from CT energy hardpoints the only other thing I could see it having would be the JJs.

My issue with this mech is mainly the lack of ballistic hardpoints or missile hardpoints but then again it might just have hardpoints that aren't in use. It reminds me of a neutered Stalker.

I would honestly have loved a Catapult with a single arm that carries missiles and another that carries either an energy or a ballistic. If it's really just 6 energy slots... it's a slightly heavier Quickdraw that probably has an engine boost. That's not enough for me, I'll stick with my nose-conned founder's Catapult.

I was hoping for something more unique. But we'll see when the hardpoints are finalized.

But that said, my ROFLpult's on the scene. 6 LRM-15s of doom. Can't wait to see how he looks after a mech model art pass; it came with the Boar's Head. Looking forward to it!
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#22 RonaldMechDonald

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:21 PM

Looks like a clown. Ronald likes Clowns! *thumbs up*

Edited by RonaldMechDonald, 02 November 2013 - 04:57 AM.


#23 aniviron

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:23 PM

Pretty sure the Jester isn't running PPCs in the arms. The current K2 has a different weapon model/texture for the PPC- it protrudes farther, and the center of the lens is recessed, as well as being a yellow-green. I'd guess it's going to be 2 ER LLAS 2 MLAS 2 SLAS or the same but all pulse lasers.

Either way, I don't expect to see many of them after a week, given how meh energy weapons are for anything besides backing up ballistics right now.

View PostWieland, on 29 October 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

HBK-4N...

Bad thing is the AC, both LRM and 2 of the ML are all in the RT.


So, it's a Hunchback?

Edited by aniviron, 29 October 2013 - 04:26 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:45 PM

View PostHelmstif, on 29 October 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

I think we have a winner for the ugliest 'Mech paint job.

Looks like a K2 without ballistic hardpoints, plus two energy hardpoints in CT. Also an extra AMS.

Well that's simple. XL300, 20DHS, twin-PPC and four MLas. I'm intrigued.

EDIT: On one hand I hope it comes with JJ. On the other hand, that would be a bit P2W....



ECM?

I am surprised to see no heavies with ECM yet. This would be a good way for PGI to sell this ugly duckling. LINES!!!! PAINT JOB LINES EVERYWHERE

#25 Malleus011

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:57 PM

A little known fact about the Jester is the 'Clown Mech' special ability; It can run into the middle of a fight, pop the canopy, and a lance of Assault Mechs get out of it.

BTW, if it had a paint job half as awesome as Buccaneer, I'd buy one.

#26 Hex Pallett

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:07 PM

View PostKoniving, on 29 October 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

This was in another Jester thread but that was a rant thread and I don't want to lose what was said... So here we go.


An asymmetric Catapult would burn me from the inside.

#27 Koniving

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:24 PM

View PostHelmstif, on 29 October 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:


An asymmetric Catapult would burn me from the inside.


In a good or bad way? I was actually picturing it as a pirate-made Catapult. Covered in sleet and rust. Looking a bit hodge-podged from salvaged parts.

#28 Hex Pallett

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:47 PM

View PostKoniving, on 29 October 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:


In a good or bad way? I was actually picturing it as a pirate-made Catapult. Covered in sleet and rust. Looking a bit hodge-podged from salvaged parts.


Well. If with than kind of paint job....I may even accept that.

#29 GrandLocomon

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:10 PM

The funny thing is I was just running around in mechs painted purple, orange and green like this because it is awful looking... Besides I like mechs with faces painted on them, so if I can come up with any reasonable builds for it, then I'm keen.

#30 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:13 PM

another jumpsniper.

I hope PGI has a plan for DFA and jumpjets.

#31 627

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:53 AM

View PostMacbrea, on 29 October 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Pretty sure the mech shown there is the following:


CPLT-JESTER
Engine: 300XL, DHS 19, LPL (2), MPL (2), SPL (2), AMS (2), 3 ton AMS ammo, 416/422 Armor, Endo-steel

Or
CPLT-JESTER
Engine: 300XL, DHS 18, LPL (2), MPL (2), SPL (2), AMS (2),JJ (4), 2 ton AMS ammo, 416/422 Armor, Endo-steel


That would be exactly 65 tons and all slots full.


If it's the second one it will sell.

I count 2 tons free for 1DHS and 1ton of AMS ammo, that whould be 2JJs.. where do you get the other 2 with everything else being the same? Heavy mechs pay 1ton per JJ, not a 1/2ton.



I really hope this thing will be fast... firebrand got that engine upgrade too but it's not really usable. With a Pult, though...

Edited by 627, 30 October 2013 - 05:54 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:59 AM

View PostThomasMarik, on 29 October 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:


PGI's Art consultant.

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Lol, glad u picked Jack over Heath.

#33 HarlekinEO

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:19 AM

Im glad, that the Jester is so ugly.
So I dont have to buy em. I dont like Catapults anyway.

Kinda hard to paint a spade onto a Urban skin >=p ?

#34 xRatas

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:28 AM

View PostNRP, on 29 October 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

If this thing has JJs, it's a guaranteed sale. If not, I probably won't bother.

However, if it does have JJs, then it would instantly obsolete the K2.


Have to disagree here, normal K2 hardpoints still are one of the best in the game, as it can easily mount pair of ballistics with safe to use XL engine and really good convergence. 6 energy hardpoints don't come even close at current meta, but jumpjets would sure make the cap smaller.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:07 PM

I juste love the paint job it reminds me of the Cheshire cat B)

#36 Ngamok

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:18 PM

View PostRaso, on 29 October 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

I want a HBK with a 4SP style missile launcher on one shoulder and a 4H style ballistic mount on the other. No head laser and one energy mount per arm. Or a Hunchback with PPCs on each shoulder.


The 4N has LRMs and Ballistics and Energy. Maybe they can do that.
  • HBK-4N The 4N variant combines the qualities of the 4H and 4J. The main weapons are an Autocannon/5 and a pair of LRM-5 launchers. This makes the 4N capable of direct fire and indirect fire support. Additionally, two Medium Lasers have been added to the design. BV (1.0) = 843, BV (2.0) = 1,087[8]

View PostThomasMarik, on 29 October 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:


PGI's Art consultant.

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They couldn't afford him.

View PostWieland, on 29 October 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

HBK-4N
AC5
2x LRM5
4x ML
1xSL

Bad thing is the AC, both LRM and 2 of the ML are all in the RT.


They can mix it up if they wanted to and put the AC on one, LRMs on the other and the extra MLs in the arms or with the AC.

Edited by Ngamok, 30 October 2013 - 12:15 PM.


#37 Werewolf486 ScorpS

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:18 PM

Cartoon Warrior Online! Engines online, weapons online, All systems laughable!

#38 Ngamok

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostMotroid, on 30 October 2013 - 05:59 AM, said:


Lol, glad u picked Jack over Heath.


Jack did a more Cesar Romero Joker than Heath. Heath was more villianous than Jack.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 01:11 PM

View PostDurant Carlyle, on 29 October 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Heroes will never be able to change their camo pattern, just like Founders. They are considered a different 'Mech type.

Regular 'Mechs will be able to gain official camo patterns, colors, and decals from earning LP.


Actually, I believe they have said they intend to fix that.

#40 Macbrea

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

Is all fine.... after thinking about it. I know i will end up getting it. My primary Mech is the K2. Any slight alteration of that +30% c-bills will be a bonus for me.





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