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[haop]

Hi folks,


I've searched the first two pages of this forum but did not find an appropriate thread. I'm sure, someone complained about it before but it is so annoying that I have to pick up the issue again.

I just played MWO and there was a Jagermech right in front of me. So I could fire his back. But at least 5 AC20 shots and the same amount of 1 LL did nearly nothing. I'm sure I hit him because he overheated several times and I was in a position where I could fire standing still.

So, how do you explain this? A JM with all his armor attached to the rear torso?

I can bring several of this examples when the enemy seems immortal.


Regards,

haop

[Thimble]

I have had this, or something similar happen to me as well.

20+ AC20 rounds, most at close range at slow moving or stationary targets. None of them hit, even though graphically they did. Ended match with 20-30 dmg, which I attributed to my backup MLs (rarely fired them).

I think it was a host state rewind (HSR) issue, as the opposing team was almost entirely 150-250mS ping and I was at ~35mS.

Only happened once, to my knowledge, in many games...

[ShortBusBully]

Haop, I do not have evidence to support this, only my observations. There are one of two things happening. Now before I state the issue I want to say you can see by my previous posts and anyone that has been in a match with me. I hardly if ever complain. Back to the point, either there is a hack, which I doubt very seriously, or this problem: Over the past several months I have noticed that some games I am in, the other team seems much tougher than normal. I do not mean skill level. In the past few days I had three matches where I was killed and the reason was stated as 2 LL and fall damage. I have no video to prove but the fall was barely far enough to cause damage if I lived. This was in my Heavy Metal. Second instance I was in my Muromets, it stated cause was LRM5, AC/10, and 1 ML. Third was again in HM and it stated cause was ac/10, LL, and LB10x. The matches had just started and I had zero damage before these hits. I believe it to be a random thing but I believe sometimes when the map loads, it either does something to your team or the enemy. Sure we get in matches where we get rolled without one kill. It could be lack of skill or great skill on the other side. I am not claiming to be a great pilot but I do consider myself fair. I average 400 to 500 damage per match with a couple kills. But it either does something to hit boxes or weapons or armor. I also have a AC/40 jaeger. I have had instances where I hit Jenners 4 times (not alphas) and they show just a bright yellow core. Or the time I went 1v1 with a Cat C4. I hit him 6 times all CT and he still had armor. Again I have no proof only my observations but there is an issue somewhere and it occurs occasionally.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Hit reg problems like this are a known issue. SRMs are even worse.However, the AC20 in general is alright.

[WVAnonymous]

I will have this sort of "intermittent HSR" as well. I will fire PPCs a few dozen times and MLs a few dozen times on Crimson Strait, apparently hit the target every time, and finish the match with 100-200 DMG. The next match I will be on Terra Therma, fire half as often, and get 400-500 DMG. It can be extremely frustrating.

On the basis of no evidence, I'll claim intermittent client/server packet loss.

[Sandpit]

I'd guess HSR or lag or some such. If you really think it was a bug type issue just send in a ticket to support@mwomercs.com

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

I for one can confirm this happening. I don't use AC/20 jagers myself, but have been in a situation when AC/20 jager hits me and it does not register. I even see the hit on my cockpit, the clang sound and smoke, but no damage is done. It's quite funny actually... But seriously PGI needs to fix these problems.

[Macster16]

I just recently quit and uninstalled the game for this exact reason. Just had a batch of games where it seemed my mechs were shooting duds. It's common and appears to come in waves. I've been putting up with it, but last night was the last straw for me. For me, it seems to occur the same time the invariable "ELO stompage" comes around which compounds the frustration of getting hammered 12-1 for 10 games in a row. I wasn't playing any worse than before, yet I was struggling to do over 300 dmg each game when 400+ dmg is the norm for me. I noticed ALOT of my hits were being completely ignored. Land an AC shot right in the middle of an enemy CT walking right at me, look up target scan....and no registration whatsoever, no dmg flash or anything.

I don't know what it is - a hidden handicap? server side issues? latency? my computer/connection? Whatever it is, it feels like the game will just decide whether I'm going to have good games or bad games whenever it wants and there's nothing I can do about it. Call me a tinfoil hat wearer, but it feels like the game (intentionally or unintentionally) takes control away from me on how I will experience the game. I've never experienced anything quite like it or seen so many others have similar experiences with any other game.

So for now, it's quits. I'll be checking back from time-to-time to see if UI2, CW, clan tech, etc has come in, but the game as it stands is just too frustrating to play.

[Sandpit]

Sandpit, on 21 November 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

send in a ticket to support@mwomercs.com

[Lightfoot]

Yep, since the last patch. Some games the damage shows up reasonably well and in some my shots seem to do little damage at point blank range. Probably long range too, but you can't be sure in those cases. Ping is about 90, so I am not shooting lag ghosts. Not sure how HSR affects this.

[kuangmk11]

It comes and goes but its been happening for a long long time.

[Biglead]

http://www.speedtest.net
http://www.pingtest.net


Ping a Canadian server near PGI and make sure it's not you, first,

[Magic Space Mafia]

Well, if I'm not mistaken PGI is on the west coast of Canada while the datacenter they use is on the east coast.

You can test your connection to 70.42.29.75, which is the actual game server. If it's a crappy connection you can diagnose it further with a tracert.

[smokefield]

i can confirm that had happened to me also. Fired 3 salvos of lb10x + 2x srm4 artemis in an NON-moving spider at 30 m away and it lived, armot just flashed a little. I should have done 3x10 + 3x2x8 = 78 damage.. enough to core an heavy even assault. Straight line non movable spider !

I felt that i did less damage to other mechs than it should have been but in heat of battle i didnt payed attention...but the spider was WTF !?!...

abyway..it is probably the last patch - they worked on hit boxes and probably on other things related that they never mentioned in the patch notes... I am expecting a new small patch very soon.

[627]

I have the feeling the closer you are to the enemy the worse hitreg becomes. especially SRMs of course and AC20.

[haop]

Hey guys,

thx a lot for all your answers and experiences. Although there is no solution around it helps not being alone I've experienced the same issue with a 2xAC10 JM and some immortal Stalker and Hunchback. Anyways, hope someday they perhaps can fix or improve that because it can really be frustrating (and perhaps Macster16 can reinstall the game).
Wish you fun with the game anyway!

haop