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[Fuggles]

Ok so now the locust is out and were not getting any other lights barring a hero version anytime soon. lights have also received a "balance pass" so it seems like a pretty stable time to ask this question.

what light mech overall is the best in the game? Not for specifically Pug / 4man / 12man but overall? What Mech brings the most to its team, the most versatility and utility (in terms of ecm/modules), the best hardpoints, and speed?

jenners i know are largely regarded as the best due to firepower, JJ, but they lack ECM and are low on module slots (barring the K). easy to core.

Spiders are tough to hit, have JJ and ECM making them the most "durable" but generally lack the firepower of other light mechs.

Raven-3L has a good firepower options although less than the jenner, ECM and 3 base module slots but lacks JJs. easy to leg.

Cicada (honorary light) is um, well it has ecm, it seems to be very average at everything though.

Locust for lols, hey its really light/fast and dual ams?

Commando 2D again, doesnt seem to stand out in any way other than its great at killing locusts.

so what are your thoughts?

interesting reads that could impact your decision
http://mwomercs.com/...mech-tier-list/

http://mwomercs.com/...nue-to-improve/

[FupDup]

The Locust doesn't belong on this list. The dual AMS is nowhere near significant enough to make up for driving what amounts to a glorified protomech.

[Cybermech]

no competition, jenner-f does it all

[Fuggles]

(regards to the locust) i dont think anyone would seriously vote for it, i only included it because i wanted to include one of each chassis.

Edited by Fuggles, 30 October 2013 - 01:51 PM.

[Shadey99]

FupDup, on 30 October 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

The Locust doesn't belong on this list. The dual AMS is nowhere near significant enough to make up for driving what amounts to a glorified protomech.

Just for that I picked it. Though honestly it's not about dual AMS, it's the 5 energy hard points. I can score in about the same bracket of damage and kills as a Jenner-F pilot. The only thing the Locust lacks is jump jets and armor. They are fragile, but the 3M in particular has a bite.

[Byrdkiller]

The 3M is a nasty ankle biter. despite its ridiculous armor weaknesses. Come in fast, hit a few times (if you have the luxury) and bolt. Cool off on your run around the hill and repeat. The speed is intoxicating.

The spider is the one that doesn't belong. There is seriously something wrong with that mech. I don't know if this "lag shield" is even a real thing, but I've seen 'em take hits like an atlas and barely turn yellow, while the same hits would flatten a locust. I stopped piloting my spider in favor of the 3M until it's fixed. Why should it have so much more survivability than the locust?

[Fuggles]

wow locust 3m gets 2 votes and no votes for raven 3l?

[627]

Voted everything because I could.

Protip: doesn't matter what mech, it's the pilot blablabla

[Mycrus]

Jenner F really?! Most it has 2 module slots.. Not enough in today's meta...

If I really must JeNner I would choose The K for max mod slots... 4 med lazors is enuf..

I'm the loon that picked the TDK, maybe something about outpacing a jenner by 20kph and packing 4 med lazors and 3 mod slots is appealing to me...

Imma talking 12manz btw... Who cares about pugs...

Wat mods to run;

1 - coolshot / uav / artie

2 - cap mod / seismic / target info

I can not stress enough how important it is for a good light pilot to pack a fully upgraded UAV..

[MeiSooHaityu]

Locust 1V!

Ok, in all seriousness, I like the Raven 3L. I can see a pretty good argument for the Jenner F being made though.

[Amsro]

My spider's are OP and dusty, I'll leave them in storage till the "can't hit spider" debacle is figured out. I don't want my effort tainted by claims of broken!

The Jenner is the heavy of lights and should be the best, I do slightly better in my Jenner-D then my Jenner-F.

[TercieI]

Amsro, on 31 October 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

My spider's are OP and dusty, I'll leave them in storage till the "can't hit spider" debacle is figured out. I don't want my effort tainted by claims of broken!

The Jenner is the heavy of lights and should be the best, I do slightly better in my Jenner-D then my Jenner-F.

^This.

It's the JR7-F. Period.

I vastly prefer the JR7-D & RVN-3L personally.

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[Narcissistic Martyr]

Right now with the Spider being so hard to kill the JR7-D is my pick because the 2xSSRM2 can efficiently deal with the spider menace.

Aside from that, the JR7-F is easily the best light. With 6xSPL on chainfire it's a legging machine or with 6xML it's absolute death to the rear armor of pretty much anything and it can instantly headshot most shutdown mechs since most people don't run full armor on the head.

[aniviron]

JR7-F, hands-down winner. The only two that even come close are the RVN-3L and JR7-D; but the D is clearly inferior due to SRMs being terrible at this time, and while the 3L does get ECM, it also relies heavily on missiles, and has truly abysmal leg hitboxes which make it far easier to kill than any other light except for the Locust, which seems to have the same sized legs with significantly less armor.

[Amsro]

Otherwise my favorite light is my Trebuchet 3C, XL390 139.9 kph w/ 4xMedLas.

338 Armor isn't bad for a light mech the size of an Assault.

[Oppresor]

I have to go with the Spider 5D as it's the only Spider option you gave. In short the Spider is the most awesome unit in MWO at the moment. It has the ability to out maneuvere anything else through a combination of sheer speed and jumpjets; it also provides the basis for a number of different specialist uses, for example:

I run a 5K as a dedicated Recon / Spotter. Intended to locate and feedback target info, strengths, positions to Assaults in my Lance, it also carry's a TAG and an Artillery Strike Module. The role is challenging because I am almost completely defenceless with the exception of an AMS, but it's also rewarding when my Lance listen to me and act on intelligence that I have sent.

[Vassago Rain]

Jenners for fighting. Raven 3L for utility.

There's no contest here.

[Deathlike]

I'm very biased to the Jenner-D, and because of the poll, I voted the F as well.

[Unnatural Growth]

I voted Jenner-F. It was my first mech. XL300, 6 ML's, 4 JJ's, advanced seismic and advanced sensor range.

I've tried several different loadouts, but always come back to the 6 ML's.

Makes an awesome striker/harrasser/cap defender. I only wish they'd come out with a hero version with ECM.

[Alistair Winter]

They should either nerf the JR7-F or buff every light mech except that one. It's so superior that it's ridiculous. It's not as bad as the Raven 3L in its glory days, but as a light mech pilot, I'm willing to throw down with pretty much every other light mech except the JR7-F.

And it's not just the fact that 1 mech is dominating an entire weight class. Although if you think about it, no other weight class in the game is dominated by a single mech to the same extent as the light mechs. But it's also the fact that it's 1 mech with the single most vanilla and braindead build in the history of Battletech. 6 lasers. Usually green ones, only occasionally red ones. Usually one weapon group, only occassionally some kind of chain fire going on. Yes, it does take skill to excel with it. I just find it backwards that the best build is the one that is easiest to learn.

If you're in a Raven 4X, you need to learn how to make 3 different weapon types work together - energy, missile and ballistics. If that was the dominant light mech, it would make sense from a balancing perspective, because it would be balanced by skill. Hard to learn, but with great benefits. A mech like the JR7-F would be easy to learn, but with low benefits. Right now we have the opposite. The most noob-friendly build of all light mechs is actually the best of them all, and the mech that can only be used to full effect if you're Neo from the Matrix is one of the worst mechs. How does that make sense from a game balancing perspective?